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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    And you get back to more of that vision that our Founders had, small limited central govt. responsible for defending this country and that is about it.




    Exactly, there isn't anything in this bill that lowers healthcare costs. Govt. is incapable of lowering costs on anything due to its nature of politicians wanting to keep their jobs instead of doing their jobs. Govt. social engineering always costs more than intended, does less than intended, and never has solved a social problem.




    The nature of politicians is to grow their power and that is what this bill does. I believe healthcare insurance is a personal responsibility just like actual healthcare. Being a personal responsibility including paying for their own expenses.




    I keep hearing the 17% number but no substantiation of that number since we are a free enterprise, capitalistic economy. Since 20% of GDP is Govt, I don't know where that 17% total expense for healthcare comes from. With 20% of the economy govt. spending and consumption the total spent on healthcare is going to be a high percentage of a lower base.

    Health Spending Hits 17.3 Percent of GDP In Largest Annual Jump



    I believe I read a 16% figure somewhere in this thread. That figure is out of date. The way things are going, the 17.3% figure will soon be out of date, too, and the current will be higher still.
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    Health Spending Hits 17.3 Percent of GDP In Largest Annual Jump



    I believe I read a 16% figure somewhere in this thread. That figure is out of date. The way things are going, the 17.3% figure will soon be out of date, too, and the current will be higher still.
    Do you understand what GDP is? How does anyone determine how much healthcare costs are in a private economy and so what if it is increasing? Where do those costs go and how does a growing GDP hurt the country?

    Like with everything else in the liberal world, rising costs seems to be an easy target yet no one can explain how they came up with those numbers and what affect GDP has on govt. revenue and personal income.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    Do you understand what GDP is? How does anyone determine how much healthcare costs are in a private economy and so what if it is increasing? Where do those costs go and how does a growing GDP hurt the country?

    Like with everything else in the liberal world, rising costs seems to be an easy target yet no one can explain how they came up with those numbers and what affect GDP has on govt. revenue and personal income.
    A growing GDP is a good thing, of course. That health care costs are higher than those of Canada means nothing, as we have 10 times the population of Canada. That health care costs are higher than those of Mexico are meaningless, as the latter has far less to spend on anything. The meaningful comparison is the percent of GDP being spent. Government costs 20%. Health care costs 17%. It would seem that it would be conservatives who would point at rising costs as a bad thing.
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    A growing GDP is a good thing, of course. That health care costs are higher than those of Canada means nothing, as we have 10 times the population of Canada. That health care costs are higher than those of Mexico are meaningless, as the latter has far less to spend on anything. The meaningful comparison is the percent of GDP being spent. Government costs 20%. Health care costs 17%. It would seem that it would be conservatives who would point at rising costs as a bad thing.
    Rising costs are a bad thing if those rising costs are due to over regulation, govt. intervention, and meaningless legal actions. Not one politician has ever defined the costs of healthcare other than point to what they call obscene profits. I have never seen an obscene profit earned legally. Profits aren't a four letter word. Profits pay dividends to seniors, profits employ people, profits create Research and development of new drugs, new medical treatments, new hospitals. Tell me one bit of a good a politician has created and the benefit they provided to the economy and our GDP?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Erod.

    The bill passed. Someone tell the Doctors.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Erod.

    The bill passed. Someone tell the Doctors.
    When you cannot get an appointment with a doctor and have to go to the ER like millions have to do now, call the WH and ask Obama for help.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    When you cannot get an appointment with a doctor and have to go to the ER like millions have to do now, call the WH and ask Obama for help.
    And when that never happens will you admit to foolishly listening to hyper-partisan talking points?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    I currently have 200 doctors that have fled to Canada. I am training them to come back and retake America from the Obama Commies. They have told me horror stories of Death Panels and Gulags in Nevada. Don't worry America, they're coming to save you.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And when that never happens will you admit to foolishly listening to hyper-partisan talking points?
    Why wouldn't it happen, it is happening now. Check out MA and its universal healthcare program. Find out how many are going to the ER because they cannot get a doctor's appointment. The only partisan ones here are people that support this POS legislation that does nothing to increase the number of doctors, number of hospitals, or actually reduces the cost of healthcare.


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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    There are 3 waiting in line, and many foreigners who will take up the slack just for the priviledge to work here.

    I love my doctor from China.

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