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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Interesting how you either unintentionally, or purposefully, misread the survey results. Notice the keyword I highlighted?

    "46.3% of primary care physicians (family medicine and internal medicine) feel that the passing of health reform will either force them out of medicine or make them want to leave medicine."


    And you have heard the HCR already passed didn't you?

    Where is the mass exodus from the practice?

    Where are the death panels?
    Where is your logic and common sense. There is a doctor shortage now so what is it in this bill that creates more doctors. Interesting how you focus on specific words but ignore specific actions. Nothing is going to change your mind, you got what you voted for, now too bad the rest of us have to pay for it.

    Noticed how you ignore anything that refutes your opinions.

    A damning health care report generated by actuaries at the Health and Human Services (HHS) Department was given to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the health care vote. She hid the report from the public until a month after democrats rammed their nationalized health care bill through Congress.

    The results from the report were troubling. The report released by Medicare and Medicaid actuaries shows that medical costs will skyrocket rising $389 billion 10 years. 14 million will lose their employer-based coverage. Millions of Americans will be left without insurance. And, millions more may be dumped into the already overwhelmed Medicaid system. 4 million American families will be hit with tax penalties under this new law.

    Of course, these were ALL things that President Obama and Democratic leaders assured us would not happen

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where is your logic and common sense. There is a doctor shortage now so what is it in this bill that creates more doctors. Interesting how you focus on specific words but ignore specific actions. Nothing is going to change your mind, you got what you voted for, now too bad the rest of us have to pay for it.
    That's the way a Democracy works. When the Republicans are in office, we have to endure the government helping the upper classes at the expense of the middle classes and lower classes, and when the Democrats are in office the Republicans have to endure the government helping the middle and lower classes at the expense of the upper classes.

    They both spend the same amount of money they just have different priorities for some of the spending.


    A damning health care report generated by actuaries at the Health and Human Services (HHS) Department was given to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the health care vote. She hid the report from the public until a month after democrats rammed their nationalized health care bill through Congress.
    I can see why you did not provide any links to hate radio's newest talking point/myth.

    From the horses mouth that disproves the report was hidden:

    The Chief Medicare Actuary, Richard Foster, called "completely inaccurate" a report that the Department of Health and Human Services buried a report on Health Care in the days before a crucial vote. "Consistent with the Office of the Actuary’s longstanding independent role on behalf of Congress, we did not seek approval or clearance from HHS (or anyone else) before issuing our analysis,"

    Actuary denies delaying report - Health Care News
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Idle threats from all but the ones who should have retired already or fleeced the public enough to be able to afford to retire.....
    This tops the Moronomatic meter.

    And what person would go to school for years only to have the Government dictate how much you can make?
    Germany has got their MD costs down to about 10% of the US.
    Government mandated cost control. MD's are wards of the state. A cost to control. It's why their best are leaving. The funny thing is the taxpayers pay to educate the Doc's, then they piss off to other countries. Beautiful... just beautiful.

    May you, in your hour of need have no Dr. to fleece your ass.

    You know what?
    I think Libs should have their own kind of medical care.
    They can have the cheap MD's.
    These Docs only go to school for 2 or 3 years; part-time. They have basic instruments like in the Russian countryside.
    You know. Scalpel, scissors, needle, thread, thermometer and alcohol.
    It's cheap, and the decision making process is fast.

    Come to think of it, Kanuckistan isn't too far from this system. Their equipment is old and the state isn't keen to invest in new technology. It's why they have waiting lists that rival the 'ol USSR. It's why Orange County, CA has more cardiac units than all of Kanuckistan. It's why major cities (Edmundchuck and Calgaristan) can't handle a half way complicated birth and need to send the family to the nearest US village.

    BTW: These Lib Doc's will also be exempt from any and all liabilities. No suing for malpractice because it increases costs. It would take money away from the purchase of scissors and scalpels.

    Let's just say you get what you pay for.

    ObamaKare is going to inflict great damage, as it has done in England, Germany, France and Kanuckistan. The first folks to get it in the teeth once the decay sets in is the Kanuckistani's. They used the US system as a safety net when their scissors and scalpel kare failed. Now? (Hey Hosehead, we need more pine boxes... eh?)

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's the way a Democracy works. When the Republicans are in office, we have to endure the government helping the upper classes at the expense of the middle classes and lower classes, and when the Democrats are in office the Republicans have to endure the government helping the middle and lower classes at the expense of the upper classes.

    They both spend the same amount of money they just have different priorities for some of the spending.




    I can see why you did not provide any links to hate radio's newest talking point/myth.

    From the horses mouth that disproves the report was hidden:

    The Chief Medicare Actuary, Richard Foster, called "completely inaccurate" a report that the Department of Health and Human Services buried a report on Health Care in the days before a crucial vote. "Consistent with the Office of the Actuary’s longstanding independent role on behalf of Congress, we did not seek approval or clearance from HHS (or anyone else) before issuing our analysis,"

    Actuary denies delaying report - Health Care News
    Was the content of the report including costs for the Healthcare bill a myth too? Seems like there was no delay but there sure was a damning cost in the report when it was released. How about the cost?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You know what?
    I think Libs should have their own kind of medical care.
    They can have the cheap MD's.
    These Docs only go to school for 2 or 3 years; part-time. They have basic instruments like in the Russian countryside..
    No, those should be conservative doctors - they can work in exchange for chickens.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, those should be conservative doctors - they can work in exchange for chickens.
    Chickens, Euro's, Dollars... who cares, so long as they aren't mandated by government to treat assholes. So long as they retain their liberty.

    Assholes... they go to the state run proctologists. They're all Democrats btw, because they are trained by world-class assholes like the collection of Asshole Emeritus' Dr. Frank, Dr. Obama, Dr. Schumer, Rev. Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse James Jackson, Dr. Pelosi, Dr. Kerry, Dr. Gore, Dr.'s Clinton, Dr. Durbin, Dr. Ried.

    Comforting isn't it?

    Don't worry, the Dems will have the latest in stainless steel scalpels, scissors, night sticks, needles and sterile thread. As you well know their entry into school isn't by grades, but by the length and thickness of their index fingers. Sorry... for the sorry assholes... No Vasaline. You know, cost control.

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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are accepting Administration claims that this will cut costs when logic and common sense based upon the details in the bill and history says differently
    I hope you won't mind that I don't consider you an expert on logic and common sense. I would prefer that you present evidence, which is the basis of logic and sense.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Chickens, Euro's, Dollars... who cares, so long as they aren't mandated by government to treat assholes.
    Who is being mandated to treat anyone?

    Assholes... they go to the state run proctologists. They're all Democrats btw, because they are trained by world-class assholes like the collection of Asshole Emeritus' Dr. Frank, Dr. Obama, Dr. Schumer, Rev. Wright, Al Sharpton, Jesse James Jackson, Dr. Pelosi, Dr. Kerry, Dr. Gore, Dr.'s Clinton, Dr. Durbin, Dr. Ried.
    I think you might need a psychiatrist to deal with your anger. Maybe you can pay him in chickens.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    This tops the Moronomatic meter.

    And what person would go to school for years only to have the Government dictate how much you can make?
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    The President?
    If life gives you Melons you probably have dyslexia.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Chickens, Euro's, Dollars... who cares, so long as they aren't mandated by government to treat assholes.
    Like they already are?
    If life gives you Melons you probably have dyslexia.

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