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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Is nobody counting the quitters? How many so far?
    It appears the ones claiming they would, now have as much credibility as those that claimed there would be death panels!
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It appears the ones claiming they would, now have as much credibility as those that claimed there would be death panels!
    When does the healthcare bill so called benefits go into effect? According to published reports we have a doctor shortage now so what happens when another 30 million are forced into the healthcare system?

    Interesting how the resident geniuses here are quick to ask for an accounting of doctors leaving the business due to a healthcare bill that hasn't even gone into effect.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is no guarantee that this healthcare bill will create more doctors and we know we have a problem now. What happens if you are wrong? Hard to prove that more will leave as the bill doesn't go into effect for another 4 years yet you are willing to take the risk. For someone in the healthcare business aren't you putting the cart before the horse? Create the doctors before adding more to the roles. In addition why was this report withheld?

    You are supporting an Administration that continues to lie to you for personal gain and power.

    DEMOCRATS HID DAMNING HEALTH CARE REPORT FROM PUBLIC UNTIL A MONTH AFTER VOTE
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    A damning health care report generated by actuaries at the Health and Human Services (HHS) Department was given to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the health care vote. She hid the report from the public until a month after democrats rammed their nationalized health care bill through Congress.

    The results from the report were troubling. The report released by Medicare and Medicaid actuaries shows that medical costs will skyrocket rising $389 billion 10 years. 14 million will lose their employer-based coverage. Millions of Americans will be left without insurance. And, millions more may be dumped into the already overwhelmed Medicaid system. 4 million American families will be hit with tax penalties under this new law.
    Perhaps you can link the actual report. Your source here seems less than credible. I would like to examine it further.

    As for certainties, there are none either way. Never will be. But we know we were foundering before reform. There was a shortage before reform. Costs were rising before reform. We were paying for others before reform. Doing nothing, not even trying was and is not an option.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Perhaps you can link the actual report. Your source here seems less than credible. I would like to examine it further.

    As for certainties, there are none either way. Never will be. But we know we were foundering before reform. There was a shortage before reform. Costs were rising before reform. We were paying for others before reform. Doing nothing, not even trying was and is not an option.
    Would you spend your own money to this degree on an uncertainty? That is the problem today with so many, trillions means nothing. There are ways to cut costs but none have been addressed. This bill adds people which is supposed to lower costs but when people opt out it leaves those with health problems in the system and that raises the costs of all.

    It is very easy to find the information I posted, Google it.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Would you spend your own money to this degree on an uncertainty? That is the problem today with so many, trillions means nothing. There are ways to cut costs but none have been addressed. This bill adds people which is supposed to lower costs but when people opt out it leaves those with health problems in the system and that raises the costs of all.

    It is very easy to find the information I posted, Google it.
    Like everyone else, I've been spending it on the certainty that costs will rise, premiums will rise, and paying more and more for people who don't pay their fair share. So, yes, I'll invest in a chance to change that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like everyone else, I've been spending it on the certainty that costs will rise, premiums will rise, and paying more and more for people who don't pay their fair share. So, yes, I'll invest in a chance to change that.

    Since nothing in this bill lowers costs all the govt. has done is spend trillions in creating another entitlement. Sounds like a pretty poor investment to me.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Since nothing in this bill lowers costs all the govt. has done is spend trillions in creating another entitlement. Sounds like a pretty poor investment to me.
    You're going in a circle again. Cost are but part of the problem.


    More than 6,000 uninsured and underinsured people in Los Angeles are expected to receive free medical care - at least temporarily - at a large mobile clinic run by the non-profit, RAM -- or Remote Area Medical. The clinic will operate at the site in L.A. for 7 days. With California’s $20 billion deficit and deep cuts to healthcare in the state, the need for medical care has grown urgent for many. Dolores M. Bernal reports from Los Angeles.

    Mobile clinic to offer free health care to uninsured in Los Angeles | FSRN - Free Speech Radio News



    Begun in 1985 as a mobile health clinic serving undeveloped countries and later rural America, Remote Area Medical provides various medical services through units to people who are largely unable to gain access to health care. Officials from the organization said they believed that this week’s event in Los Angeles constituted the largest free health care event in the country, with the arena and all supplies and services provided free to the group. Other expenses were covered by the group’s fund-raising.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/13clinic.html

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CRHO3J2lWA"]YouTube- Free Health Care For People in Los Angeles at the Forum 08/12/2009[/nomedia]

    But, as we've noted, there is a possibility with more work and further reform that this movement will lead to lower costs.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're going in a circle again. Cost are but part of the problem.


    More than 6,000 uninsured and underinsured people in Los Angeles are expected to receive free medical care - at least temporarily - at a large mobile clinic run by the non-profit, RAM -- or Remote Area Medical. The clinic will operate at the site in L.A. for 7 days. With California’s $20 billion deficit and deep cuts to healthcare in the state, the need for medical care has grown urgent for many. Dolores M. Bernal reports from Los Angeles.

    Mobile clinic to offer free health care to uninsured in Los Angeles | FSRN - Free Speech Radio News



    Begun in 1985 as a mobile health clinic serving undeveloped countries and later rural America, Remote Area Medical provides various medical services through units to people who are largely unable to gain access to health care. Officials from the organization said they believed that this week’s event in Los Angeles constituted the largest free health care event in the country, with the arena and all supplies and services provided free to the group. Other expenses were covered by the group’s fund-raising.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/13clinic.html

    YouTube- Free Health Care For People in Los Angeles at the Forum 08/12/2009

    But, as we've noted, there is a possibility with more work and further reform that this movement will lead to lower costs.
    Wow, and they did this without Govt. Run Healthcare? How can that be? We have a "free" healthcare clinic in my community as well so tell me again why we need the Federal Govt. to get involved in local and state issues?

    This is a local and state issue and should be handled exactly this way. Wonder how many of these people are illegal's?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, and they did this without Govt. Run Healthcare? How can that be? We have a "free" healthcare clinic in my community as well so tell me again why we need the Federal Govt. to get involved in local and state issues?

    This is a local and state issue and should be handled exactly this way. Wonder how many of these people are illegal's?
    See Boo? Free health clinics for the poor make everything fine. Kind of like welfare means the economy is fine.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    Wow, and they did this without Govt. Run Healthcare? How can that be? We have a "free" healthcare clinic in my community as well so tell me again why we need the Federal Govt. to get involved in local and state issues?

    This is a local and state issue and should be handled exactly this way. Wonder how many of these people are illegal's?
    Yep, just like they do third world countries. Something to be proud of no doubt.

    And even if the state handled it, though few have, it would still be along the same lines, presenting the same solutions. Not to mentions states can opt out by coming up with their own plans. Perhaps you should spend your energy arguing your state should step up?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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