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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The CBO takes its direction from its boss, the Congress, and shifting costs to the states doesn't lower costs thus isn't deficit neutral.

    Read what the Govt. says about the CBO estimates

    Health Insurance US Health Insurance Statistics How Many Really are Uninsured?
    Read this before. And it isn't an accruate reading of the CBO and links the American Spectator whihc is hardly a non-biased publication. So, it doesn't change anything.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Read this before. And it isn't an accruate reading of the CBO and links the American Spectator whihc is hardly a non-biased publication. So, it doesn't change anything.
    it doesn't change anything? There are many articles that point out the CBO numbers and where they came from. You choose to buy what liberals like Obama tell you when all Obama does is use people like you for personal gain.

    Stop being a tool of the left and get the facts about the CBO. It is given assumptions by the Congress which it has to use. It is seldom accurate in predictions and the revisions show that the CBO revised their numbers and agreed that it overstated savings by double counting medicare savings.

    Do you really want to put your reputation on the line buying what Obama tells you?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that's not true. The discussion has gone on for decades. This was not the first effort. People get fired up about it nearly every election, the problem comes to the forefront, and then the industry and republicans start the socialism scare (remember Harry and Louise?), and it fails. Anyone who thinks it is new is either uninformed (maybe very young) or in some form of denial.

    I think you are missing my point, I said that health care reform became a Crisis when Obama was elected. ie; thousands of people are dying every day without health insurance, we have to do this right now, the evil insurance co.s this the evil insurance co.s that.

    As if, in a counrty of over 300 milliom people, thousands don't die eveyday anyway.

    And then you quote me a television commercial sponsered by lobbyists to try to make the point that it has been a crisis for a long time.

    Just because someone paid someone else to say something, does not make it true.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    BTW Cholla, it is what you said. I quoted it a above in case you forgot.

    And the five bills were not working with democrats but trying to muddy the waters. Working with them is working to present one bill, together.
    Do you remember, not so long ago,the end of last year when Dems were locked in a room writing this bill and no one was allowed in.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    it doesn't change anything? There are many articles that point out the CBO numbers and where they came from. You choose to buy what liberals like Obama tell you when all Obama does is use people like you for personal gain.

    Stop being a tool of the left and get the facts about the CBO. It is given assumptions by the Congress which it has to use. It is seldom accurate in predictions and the revisions show that the CBO revised their numbers and agreed that it overstated savings by double counting medicare savings.

    Do you really want to put your reputation on the line buying what Obama tells you?
    Only if you stop being a tool for the right.

    Of course you can find anything on the internet, but come on, the American Spectator? How biased can you get? Try NRO or The American (non) Thinker. If you're going with biased crap, use them all.

    What I speak to is my view. Not Obama's. Not the democrat party. Not any one or anything else. I read, I have lived, I have experience and I think. Try arguing with me and not some make believe strawman.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Do you remember, not so long ago,the end of last year when Dems were locked in a room writing this bill and no one was allowed in.
    Sure do. Do you remember what happened before that?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Maybe these doctors need to go ahead and quit cause they are suppose to be in it to help people
    The more honorable the occupation, the less the salary should be?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only if you stop being a tool for the right.

    Of course you can find anything on the internet, but come on, the American Spectator? How biased can you get? Try NRO or The American (non) Thinker. If you're going with biased crap, use them all.

    What I speak to is my view. Not Obama's. Not the democrat party. Not any one or anything else. I read, I have lived, I have experience and I think. Try arguing with me and not some make believe strawman.
    Look, you can continue to attack the messenger and ignore the message but that doesn't change the message. the message is the role of the CBO is to score requests from the Congress based upon the assumptions given to them by the Congress.

    I provided links to the U.S. Census, Healthcare studies, not the American Spectator. Keep ignoring the number of people in this country that can afford health insurance but CHOOSE not to purchase it, the number of people who have access to Medicaid but haven't signed up for it, the number of uninsured children that SCHP is available to but their parents haven't signed up for it.

    All you and the liberals have done is magnify a problem making it a crisis that is much less than you and other liberals want to admit. Refute the information posted and then tell us why we need a multi trillion dollar bill to insure those still uninsured after all existing programs are exhausted?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure do. Do you remember what happened before that?

    Paul Ryan laid "your" President out and it was basically ignored by the media and you. Ryan nailed the costs, nailed the inability to address the real issues of healthcare, and nailed the lies being told by this Administration. Keep dodging those lies.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Paul Ryan laid "your" President out and it was basically ignored by the media and you. Ryan nailed the costs, nailed the inability to address the real issues of healthcare, and nailed the lies being told by this Administration. Keep dodging those lies.
    You do realize that's your opinion and can't be considered fact. However, do a search:

    Google

    Nothing was ignored.

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