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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Just an FYI, here's a price list. Although it's from a medical tourism site, it'll give an idea of the cost differences. It should also be noted that these Costa Rica medical costs are not an anomaly in medical tourism destinations.
    Average income (Approx) U.S. 40,000 Costa Rica 9500

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

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    When are you going to use reason to assess the performance of all federal initiated social programs? Are you ever going to use reason to review the MA performance?

    You can study govt run programs until hell freezes over and a reasonable person will come up with the same results, total and complete failure in terms of controlling costs and improving quality.
    I have used reasoning already. Again, I have answered and explained already.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Average income (Approx) U.S. 40,000 Costa Rica 9500
    Airfare

    Orlando to San Jose $240
    Chicago to San Jose $244
    Washington to San Jose $294
    New York to San Jose $324
    Detroit to San Jose $331
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have used reasoning already. Again, I have answered and explained already.
    I see your reasoning as flawed and the facts back me up. Have you ever admitted being wrong once in your life? What if you are wrong here as the MA program indicates?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Airfare

    Orlando to San Jose $240
    Chicago to San Jose $244
    Washington to San Jose $294
    New York to San Jose $324
    Detroit to San Jose $331
    Your point? you think comparing airfare to various cities is comparable to comparing income to two countries? That is liberal logic which cannot be called logic at all.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I see your reasoning as flawed and the facts back me up. Have you ever admitted being wrong once in your life? What if you are wrong here as the MA program indicates?
    I've been wrong a time or two, and have admitted it. However, that doesn't mean you've proven me wrong here. I don't believe you have.

    And the MA program is not the this program. And you wrongly called it universal health care, which it isn't.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've been wrong a time or two, and have admitted it. However, that doesn't mean you've proven me wrong here. I don't believe you have.

    And the MA program is not the this program. And you wrongly called it universal health care, which it isn't.
    What is it going to take to prove you wrong. We have the MA numbers, we have historical data on SS, Medicare, and other social engineering programs.

    We have a serious problem here where we cannot even agree on the definition of UHC. Give me your definition as I gave you a web posted definition. ALL citizens of MA are covered and have access to healthcare so why isn't that UHC?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is it going to take to prove you wrong. We have the MA numbers, we have historical data on SS, Medicare, and other social engineering programs.

    We have a serious problem here where we cannot even agree on the definition of UHC. Give me your definition as I gave you a web posted definition. ALL citizens of MA are covered and have access to healthcare so why isn't that UHC?

    None of that proves me wrong in any way. And you really do need tolearn what universal health care is:

    a health insurance program in many countries other than the United States that is financed by taxes and administered by the government to provide comprehensive health care that is accessible to all citizens of that nation.

    Universal health care - definition of Universal health care in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Universal health care is a system of organized health-care systems built around the principle of universal coverage for all members of society, combining mechanisms for health financing and service provision.[1]

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care]Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    # Universal health care is health care coverage for all eligible residents of a political region and often covers medical, dental and mental health ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

    # A government-sponsored system that ensures health care coverage for all citizens of a nation, regardless of income level or employment status.
    political glossary - political terms - CosmoGIRL!

    Although some people refer to universal health care as socialized medicine, the concepts are not completely synonymous. The term “socialized medicine” is primarily used only in the United States by those who do not support the idea of universal health care. Outside the US, the terms most used are universal health care or public health care. The actual definition of socialized medicine is somewhat varied and inconsistent in usage, though it generally describes any system of health care that is publicly financed, government administered, or both.

    Universal Health Care


    MA is not universal health care.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    None of that proves me wrong in any way. And you really do need tolearn what universal health care is:

    a health insurance program in many countries other than the United States that is financed by taxes and administered by the government to provide comprehensive health care that is accessible to all citizens of that nation.

    Universal health care - definition of Universal health care in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Universal health care is a system of organized health-care systems built around the principle of universal coverage for all members of society, combining mechanisms for health financing and service provision.[1]

    Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    # Universal health care is health care coverage for all eligible residents of a political region and often covers medical, dental and mental health ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care

    # A government-sponsored system that ensures health care coverage for all citizens of a nation, regardless of income level or employment status.
    political glossary - political terms - CosmoGIRL!

    Although some people refer to universal health care as socialized medicine, the concepts are not completely synonymous. The term “socialized medicine” is primarily used only in the United States by those who do not support the idea of universal health care. Outside the US, the terms most used are universal health care or public health care. The actual definition of socialized medicine is somewhat varied and inconsistent in usage, though it generally describes any system of health care that is publicly financed, government administered, or both.

    Universal Health Care


    MA is not universal health care.
    I am really concerned about your reading comprehension as that is the definition I posted and what is in effect in MA. All citizens of MA have healthcare coverage so what isn't universal about that?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am really concerned about your reading comprehension as that is the definition I posted and what is in effect in MA. All citizens of MA have healthcare coverage so what isn't universal about that?
    No, that is mot true of MA. First, not everyone is covered. Second, the government is the insurer. There are private insurance companies. Nothing has been combined. Read all of what I posted and not selected words.

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