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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Is it quite possible she wasn't implying he was gonna pay for it? thats a bit of a stretch when she did not use those exact words.

    Is it at all possible she simply meant that it was not gonna bankrupt her, and she might have enough money to pay for those things?

    OH WAIT NO! SHE'S LIBERAL AND SUPPORTS OBAMA!
    You tell me...All I can go by is her words.

    A\I also go by the actions of all the crippled and dependent pets that support legislation that has no price tag...no understanding of what is in it...etc.

    Oh...dont worry...I was equally critical of bush. He is the reason i left the republican party.

    In your supposed acceptance of this concept of bipartisanship...is it possible with the fact that you jump to DEFEND every liberal ideology or poster that maybe its YOU that has the partisanship problem??? Oh...wait...it says right there...VERY liberal...

    got it...
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You tell me...All I can go by is her words.

    A\I also go by the actions of all the crippled and dependent pets that support legislation that has no price tag...no understanding of what is in it...etc.

    Oh...dont worry...I was equally critical of bush. He is the reason i left the republican party.

    In your supposed acceptance of this concept of bipartisanship...is it possible with the fact that you jump to DEFEND every liberal ideology or poster that maybe its YOU that has the partisanship problem??? Oh...wait...it says right there...VERY liberal...

    got it...
    Perhaps I should change my Ideology thingey. Because to me Very Liberal means something very very different to what it means to you. For example, our conservatives in Canada, would be blasted in America as communists. Pretty much. Perhaps I should put, centrist or independant, I just happen to be liberal on alot of subjects. But I am conservative on others, as any person with half a brain should be, willing to see things from both sides.

    and I'm not so partisan, that I can't agree with you on anything. I agreed with you earlier today that both parties are corrupt. and both are as bad as eachother.

    I simply felt that your use of that clip was unfair. Without a proper context no one can really say what she may have meant. But I seriously doubt that she meant Obama was gonna fork over money for her gas and mortgage.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Perhaps I should change my Ideology thingey. Because to me Very Liberal means something very very different to what it means to you. For example, our conservatives in Canada, would be blasted in America as communists. Pretty much. Perhaps I should put, centrist or independant, I just happen to be liberal on alot of subjects. But I am conservative on others, as any person with half a brain should be, willing to see things from both sides.

    and I'm not so partisan, that I can't agree with you on anything. I agreed with you earlier today that both parties are corrupt. and both are as bad as eachother.

    I simply felt that your use of that clip was unfair. Without a proper context no one can really say what she may have meant. But I seriously doubt that she meant Obama was gonna fork over money for her gas and mortgage.
    I used that clip to denote ANYONE that just blindly follows ANY party.

    We have a massive debt. We have low consumer confidence. We have High unemployment. We have out of control government spending. We have redundant state and federal government beauracracy. We have a stock market that is on pins and needles because of fear of what this administration is proposing. We have a depressed housing market.

    And the solution is to spend more money on programs we cant afford.

    Only an idealogue would support such loooonacy. An idealogue, or a crippled and dependent pet invested in Uncle Sammy taking care of them. The video fits.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Bush wasn't the best president we have had.
    That's saying it mildly.....
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    ^^^

    Initially I thought it was just straight ideology pushing this ... then when he pulled out the public option and rolled over so easily on it, I knew it no longer was ideology because ideology would require Obama to go to the mat for a public option. It's about destroying the system to then require it to be rebuilt. Now is the system "capitalism" or is it "free market" or is it the entire country as some of the more rabid of the Republicans / Conservatives claim? Dunno yet --- but if this was really about the people, and their health and health care costs this bill would not go through nor would Obama be pushing it.

    Only thing left is burning it to the ground and then saying, "Well, we have to rebuild it now", and he or the cronies that follow him, get to rebuild this country - which has been the ultimate wet dream of Progressives since the early 20th century.
    Claiming that he's out to destroy the entire system is a conspiracy theory, I take statements like that the same way as people who claim 9/11 was an inside job.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Claiming that he's out to destroy the entire system is a conspiracy theory, I take statements like that the same way as people who claim 9/11 was an inside job.
    Would it change anything if you saw the video with him speaking those exact words and discussing how to get to a single payer, universal healthcare system?

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Would it change anything if you saw the video with him speaking those exact words and discussing how to get to a single payer, universal healthcare system?
    You mean the one thats been taking off the table, no it really wouldn't. But I am curious, wheres the video?

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You mean the one thats been taking off the table, no it really wouldn't. But I am curious, wheres the video?


    Well...Im sure your little computer can access the internet as well as mine and you can look up the numerous otrhers...but here is a start.

    Now...I'm aware...the universal single payer system isnt in this option. THIS option. I also know that you are not a stupdi person and know as well as I do that once the pass SOMETHING...ANYTHING...that that is just the beginning. The goal is to get there and to be truthful...I believe that one way or the other...by hook or by crook...they will get there.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE"]YouTube- Obama on single payer health insurance[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk"]YouTube- SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3BS4C9el98"]YouTube- Single Payer Action Confronts Barney Frank[/ame]

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I'm aware...the universal single payer system isnt in this option. THIS option. I also know that you are not a stupdi person and know as well as I do that once the pass SOMETHING...ANYTHING...that that is just the beginning. The goal is to get there and to be truthful...I believe that one way or the other...by hook or by crook...they will get there.
    Man...I hope you are right.
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Please any of you retired military guys or girls regardless of your politics read my OP...This is really serious and Obama is really going to stick it to us if his socialist Obama Care is aprroved......You will lose your Medicare and the premiums for your TRICARE will sky rocket if you even get it.......We were promised free medical care for life if we made the Military a career....they have already taken that away from us and are now threatening to take TRICARE away........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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