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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Because Republicans, unlike Demo-Rats know that once you open the door to government takeover, like this farce of a bill, then you open the floodgates to pure Communism, Komrade.
    I'd be more inclined to accept your hyperbole as an intelligible point if the Republicans had put forth ANYTHING at all, even a plan that didnt involve government intervention.
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's not. Suggesting that all treatments are choices, as if treatment for cancer is just as optional as getting a boob job, is silly.
    It is just as optional. How is it not? Everything is a choice.


    We're talking about the entire health care system, which includes emergency care.
    No, we aren't. Since you can't make choices about emergency care and we were specifically discussion the choice aspect since that's what you were taking issue with. Prices would decrease for emergency care too, but there wouldn't be any competition in that market.


    Those people already have those choices now. What does this have to do with cost control?



    Most already have a choice of providers today too. Look, choice is a powerful cost control tool, but don't suggest that it can work exactly like plastic surgery.
    Yes, it would work much like the cosmetic surgery industry if we remove the middlemen who drive costs ever upward. We need to return *the patient* as the ONLY decision maker and the ONLY person who pays.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh really Navy? Is this why the Republicans are now against the very things that they supported before?

    No....the party of No does not want reform. They want to protect the insurance companies who are in their back pocket.

    Exactly what reform do you want?
    The majority of the American people do not want Obama Care.....The polls show that..live with it..........
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I'd be more inclined to accept your hyperbole as an intelligible point if the Republicans had put forth ANYTHING at all, even a plan that didnt involve government intervention.
    They have put up a plan and ideas.......the majority won't let them bring it to the floor...........
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I'd be more inclined to accept your hyperbole as an intelligible point if the Republicans had put forth ANYTHING at all, even a plan that didnt involve government intervention.
    Uhh they already have! Numerous times. It's just that your Leftist slant is clouding your perspective.


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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They have put up a plan and ideas.......the majority won't let them bring it to the floor...........
    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Uhh they already have! Numerous times. It's just that your Leftist slant is clouding your perspective.
    Any examples?
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Any examples?


    Tort Reform, No Abortion Funding, Cross state borders for insurance......I could go on and on........You have either been not paying attention or are blinded by your partisanship my left wing friend.....
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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Tort Reform, No Abortion Funding, Cross state borders for insurance......I could go on and on........You have either been not paying attention or are blinded by your partisanship my left wing friend.....
    Yeah cause he has the blind partisanship. Since everyone to you on the left is communist American hating moron.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Tort Reform, No Abortion Funding, Cross state borders for insurance......I could go on and on........You have either been not paying attention or are blinded by your partisanship my left wing friend.....
    Tort reform - the right-wing answer to healthcare reform. They haven't looked at any of the studies that say it would have less than a 1% effect on the costs of healthcare.

    No Abortion funding - the new bill provides no funding. So there's no idea there that is new.

    Cross state borders - Oh please....the same insurance companies are operating state to state. This is not going to have any effect at real reform.

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    Re: Obama Socialist Health care program....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The majority of the American people do not want Obama Care.....The polls show that..live with it..........
    Yes, some of the dissent is from those that do not want change, some is from those that think this bill has been watered down beyond recognition and some of it is just objecting to the process. The majority of Americans want health care reform and the majority of Americans want at least a public option.

    Given the most want health care reform and if this gets voted down now, no one will have the guts to try this again for 100 years, its no wonder that the prevailing wisdom in the demo party is to get something done, even if it means losing a few congressional seats....

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