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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Aren't they talking about violent offenses and sex offenses?
    Not necessarily - in some states it includes (or is proposed to include) all arrests including misdemeanors.

    If you're pulled over for drunk driving, you either breath, bleed or pee. Remember these people haven't been convicted yet. In fact, those tests are what is most likely going get them off.
    Except that's very, very different. You can't use someone's BAC to track them in a database.

    If you're arrested for a sex offense, or other violent crime, we should tag you like an animal--get your DNA and see what else you may have been up to. Get some laws on the books compelling those arrested or indicted for sex offenses and violent crimes to say ahh... If your DNA doesn't match the victim or match the DNA found at the crime, then it's case closed.
    So you're saying they should take the DNA and then delete all records of it if they can't get a conviction?
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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    President Obama backs DNA test in arrests - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

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    Interesting to see. This is another fairly large break from what many assumed (fairly or not) would be Obama's approach toward privacy rights and the procedures used in criminal prosecution.
    I really have no idea what gave people the idea that Obama considered privacy and civil liberties to be his priorities. I knew what he was the moment he voted in favor of warrantless wiretaps. But at the voting booth it was him or Palin, so what do you want from me?

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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Some records are okay. Parking tickets? Sure. My genetic history? No.

    Someone hacks in and gets my parking tickets. Big fricken deal. Getting my personal financial? Hell No. But then again, private industry isn't any better with that.
    Yea that doesn't bother me about the tickets.

    On the other hand I'd be pretty pissed about my DNA profile be stolen.
    Just recently I've found out that DNA can be faked pretty easily.
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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not sure on this whole topic, but...isn't this just basically the direct descendant of fingerprinting? Isn't it done for the same reason? If so, how is this different?
    They shouldn't be finger printing unless the person is convicted or the need to use it to solve something related to the crime.
    That is my feelings on it.

    If a person is cleared or has served their complete sentence, that needs to be destroyed.
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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Wow. Where are the ones who bashed the patriot act for years.
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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Wow. Where are the ones who bashed the patriot act for years.
    That would be me.

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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    That would be me.

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    So what say you on Obama's intrusions?
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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest | Threat Level | Wired.com



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    President Obama backs DNA test in arrests - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

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    Interesting to see. This is another fairly large break from what many assumed (fairly or not) would be Obama's approach toward privacy rights and the procedures used in criminal prosecution.
    well, i do not.

    arrest /= guilt.

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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    If you're arrested for a sex offense, or other violent crime, we should tag you like an animal--get your DNA and see what else you may have been up to. Get some laws on the books compelling those arrested or indicted for sex offenses and violent crimes to say ahh... If your DNA doesn't match the victim or match the DNA found at the crime, then it's case closed.

    Of course, this raises an interesting self-incrimination question. What if it matches the DNA from 5 other crimes?
    Have you ever heard of the presumption of innocence? People aren't guilty of a crime until they've been convicted of the crime in a court of law.

    Good grief. We need to start teaching civics classes in schools again. And REQUIRING THEM.

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    Re: Obama Supports DNA Sampling Upon Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So what say you on Obama's intrusions?
    They're bull****...and undermine the fundamental rights in the constitution and bill of rights. Cheese and rice...this is a horrifically bad idea.

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