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Scott Brown Votes with Democrats (Again) on Cloture

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This is why I think it was foolish for people to make a big deal out of Brown's victory in Massachusetts. A republican in that part of the US is not the same as a republican in many other parts of the US.


Scott Brown Votes with Democrats (Again) on Cloture - The Note

ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports: Scott Brown is proving to be an elusive vote on matters of cloture. During his month in the senate, Brown is just about evenly split, siding half the time with Democrats and half the time with Republicans.

For a man ushered into the Senate as someone Republicans should “exalt in” and signaling the death knell of Democrats’ super-majority, Brown has shown himself to be no fan of Senate Republicans’ slow-everything-to-a-snail’s-pace strategy.

In two cases now Brown joined several other Republican moderates to buck his party and help Democrats narrowly defeat filibuster.

The most recent occurred Tuesday afternoon – a cloture vote on Democrats’ most recent jobs bill, which has a year-long extension of unemployment and COBRA benefits as well as extending popular tax credits for a host of issues. Cloture was invoked 66-34.

The problem is that the bill adds $100 billion to the federal deficit. And Brown said today he doesn’t support it.

Brown sounded downright Senatorial explaining his vote on the Senate floor, explaining that while he opposes the bill in its current form, it has been debated for a week and he feels like it is time to “move the process forward.”

“I wanted to make it very clear that I will be voting for cloture. But that, in fact, does not mean I support the actual bill when it comes to a vote,” said Brown in a quick speech on the Senate floor, his second. “As I said when I first came here, I believe in process and I believe that we should have an opportunity after full and fair debate to move bills forward and hopefully send back a product that we can all live with,” he said.

Brown’s other cloture votes - one of the times was for a non-controversial judicial nominee for whom Republicans still insisted on a cloture vote.
 
Brown sounded downright Senatorial explaining his vote on the Senate floor, explaining that while he opposes the bill in its current form, it has been debated for a week and he feels like it is time to “move the process forward.”​

Bravo Senator Brown! I applaud his attitude.
 
Wow. An elected politician actually representing his constituants rather than his party. What a novel idea.
 
Imagine that another northeast liberal republican. What made anyone think he would be different than Collins or Snow?
 
Imagine that another northeast liberal republican. What made anyone think he would be different than Collins or Snow?

Or Lieberman or Miller.

Go figure. :roll:

I find it amusing when a party politician breaks ranks, he is applauded by the opposing team for doing what is right. When their own break ranks, they are worthless traitors.

Both sides do it.

Muy ha ha.
 
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Or Lieberman or Miller.

Go figure. :roll:

I find it amusing when a party politician breaks ranks, he is applauded by the opposing team for doing what is right. When their own break ranks, they are worthless traitors.

Both sides do it.

Muy ha ha.

Tread carefullly. One wrong step near that shadow and you'll knock over the United States's entire socio-political apparatus.
 
Or Lieberman or Miller.

Go figure. :roll:

I find it amusing when a party politician breaks ranks, he is applauded by the opposing team for doing what is right. When their own break ranks, they are worthless traitors.

Both sides do it.

Muy ha ha.

I thought we were discussing republicans
 
I thought we were discussing republicans

They're all the same to me. Democrat. Republican. They're all politicians. I'd rather be a piano player in a whore house.
 
He is a RINO but will vote against Obama's socialist health care program so its worth it..........
 
Imagine that another northeast liberal republican. What made anyone think he would be different than Collins or Snow?

As a senator he is called upon to represent his constituents, not his party. So far he seems like a fair, independent guy. Instead of voting no on everything and calling people socialists, he is actually working with the other party to shape ideas, and heal our country.
 
As a senator he is called upon to represent his constituents, not his party. So far he seems like a fair, independent guy. Instead of voting no on everything and calling people socialists, he is actually working with the other party to shape ideas, and heal our country.

This is reminiscent to the Republican party I USED to belong to. Before Newt. Before Bush. Back when it represented the people. A few more like Brown and I might have to consider making my way back. The democrats aren't showing me much of nothing.
 
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Wow. An elected politician actually representing his constituants rather than his party. What a novel idea.

Is he actually representing his consituents? Surely the folks that elected him weren't shooting for a Liberal, since he's a Republican-n-all. If they really wanted Liberal politics as usual, then why vote for a Republican? What's-her-butt would have filled that bill nicely.

Time will tell, but this could very well be Brown's only term.
 
Okay let's wait till the vote on the bill occurs.
 
Is he actually representing his consituents? Surely the folks that elected him weren't shooting for a Liberal, since he's a Republican-n-all. If they really wanted Liberal politics as usual, then why vote for a Republican? What's-her-butt would have filled that bill nicely.

I don't think his constituents were shooting for a liberal or a conservative. During his campaign he said he would be an independent voice. Not a liberal or conservative voice, but an independent voice. I was very skeptical of how a Massachusetts Republican would vote. I was thinking he would be one of those kind of folk who walk around calling Obama a "Kenyan born communist" and would be out to destroy his administration for partisan game, but so far he seems to be showing signs of working to heal our country instead of destroying it. Time will tell though. I do figure he will oppose some of Obama's health care plan... But I believe he will be more open minded about it than just saying no and pretending our health care is 100% perfect as is.

Again, time will tell but I'm consistently keeping his an eye on him at govtrack.us
 
As a senator he is called upon to represent his constituents, not his party. So far he seems like a fair, independent guy. Instead of voting no on everything and calling people socialists, he is actually working with the other party to shape ideas, and heal our country.

Another liberal GOP from the northeast
 
Some sanity from a conservative? Whoah!

You know what a RINO is?

He will stand tall on Obama's socialist health care program....Take it to the bank...
 
You know what a RINO is?

He will stand tall on Obama's socialist health care program....Take it to the bank...

Just like he stood tall and voted against socialized medicine in Massachusetts......

Oops, he didnt. He not only supported it, but was one of it's sponsors. Looks like you are about to lose your bank account. LOL.
 
You know what a RINO is?

He will stand tall on Obama's socialist health care program....Take it to the bank...

I was talking about American, who said "let's wait for the vote." He was being sane.

It's funny, when ANY Republican breaks ranks in the LEAST, they become a RINO. This is how your party is going to destroy itself, my right-wing friend.


I totally expect Scott Brown to vote against the healthcare bill. We sometimes see a Senator vote for cloture on principle of ending useless filibusters, but still vote against the bill in question. I think that's what Brown is going to do.

You can do that, you know. Vote for cloture but still against the bill.
 
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