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    Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

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    The title is a bit off: Filibuster reform is what's being discussed.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said at a summit for progressive reporters, pundits and bloggers today that he is going to hold Rules Committee hearings on filibuster reform to dramatically change the process.
    At the very least, they need to go back to the old "read some recipes" format. Right now, a single person can hold up everything the Senate tries to do all the while sitting in their chair. When they get tired, they can get up and swap out a buddy to do it for them. This leads to the effect that if one party really wants it, they can make 60 votes a requirement for literally anything to get done, as well as wasting several days on each bill due to the cloture mechanics. (it takes a full day from petition to voting on cloture, and after that up to 30 hours of debate before an actual vote on the bill happens)

    One man can stop the government with almost no effort. At the very least, they should have to work for it, to ensure that it only happens on things people are really invested in. Right now, the GOP is using filibuster, or threat of filibuster, on nearly every single piece of legislation no matter how small.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

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    The title is a bit off: Filibuster reform is what's being discussed.



    At the very least, they need to go back to the old "read some recipes" format. Right now, a single person can hold up everything the Senate tries to do all the while sitting in their chair. When they get tired, they can get up and swap out a buddy to do it for them. This leads to the effect that if one party really wants it, they can make 60 votes a requirement for literally anything to get done, as well as wasting several days on each bill due to the cloture mechanics. (it takes a full day from petition to voting on cloture, and after that up to 30 hours of debate before an actual vote on the bill happens)

    One man can stop the government with almost no effort. At the very least, they should have to work for it, to ensure that it only happens on things people are really invested in. Right now, the GOP is using filibuster, or threat of filibuster, on nearly every single piece of legislation no matter how small.
    I like it much better when they do nothing. Congress doing things is what put us in a precarious position. I would like it much better if paid off senators could not fulfill their kickback promises. They would be less subject to temptation if good ideas ran the show.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I like it much better when they do nothing. Congress doing things is what put us in a precarious position. I would like it much better if paid off senators could not fulfill their kickback promises. They would be less subject to temptation if good ideas ran the show.
    The problem is that nothing is running the show. We're in the middle of the ocean about to be hit by a major storm, and our engines are fighting eachother. Our government has become "Stop anything and everything the other guys are trying to do" instead of "How do help our country?"

    Republicans are railing against their own ideas now that Democrats are supporting them. We're going to sink out here.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
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    The title is a bit off: Filibuster reform is what's being discussed.



    At the very least, they need to go back to the old "read some recipes" format. Right now, a single person can hold up everything the Senate tries to do all the while sitting in their chair. When they get tired, they can get up and swap out a buddy to do it for them. This leads to the effect that if one party really wants it, they can make 60 votes a requirement for literally anything to get done, as well as wasting several days on each bill due to the cloture mechanics. (it takes a full day from petition to voting on cloture, and after that up to 30 hours of debate before an actual vote on the bill happens)

    One man can stop the government with almost no effort. At the very least, they should have to work for it, to ensure that it only happens on things people are really invested in. Right now, the GOP is using filibuster, or threat of filibuster, on nearly every single piece of legislation no matter how small.
    Setting aside all the partisan issues for a moment and looking at it as a blank slate, do you really think that going back to the old "read some recipies" format would be an improvement?

    Look at it this way: If its an issue of real importance, such as health care, is there any doubt that the Republicans would be more than willing to get up there and read recipes for as long as they needed to? Filibusters have lasted for weeks in the past, and I have no doubt that they would last for that long nowadays. The end result would just be that the Senate would waste three weeks doing nothing and then be right back where they started. The current system is actually much more efficient, as it avoids all of that time-wasting and forces the sides to do what they were already going to have to do.

    Basically, the only way in which that type of reform would have an impact would be if the people conducting a filibuster would back off if they were forced to actually stand up and speak for it. That seems incredibly unlikely to me - with 41 Senators, you just need each person to get up and give a 3 hour speech every 5 days. The only practical effect might be that the opposition would be somewhat less likely to filibuster the least important things.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I like it much better when they do nothing. Congress doing things is what put us in a precarious position. I would like it much better if paid off senators could not fulfill their kickback promises. They would be less subject to temptation if good ideas ran the show.
    I think we should amend the Constitution to only allow Congress to meet 30 days per year.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The problem is that nothing is running the show. .
    I think that is absolutely wrong. Follow the money. Who benefits? Do a little research and the answers may come to you.
    Thank you

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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    I want it to be a slow and cumbersome process. Tedious and awkward beyond most typical actions in the senate. In short I want to make government at the federal level less effective at passing legislation.
    To much of a good thing has gotten bad.

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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    I want it to be a slow and cumbersome process. Tedious and awkward beyond most typical actions in the senate. In short I want to make government at the federal level less effective at passing legislation.
    To much of a good thing has gotten bad.
    So you want our government to waste a lot of time and money.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you want our government to waste a lot of time and money.
    It's their time, and they're on a salary.
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    Re: Schumer To Hold Hearings On Undoing Filibuster Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you want our government to waste a lot of time and money.
    I'd like to see a 2/3's majority required in both houses to pass any law ....... a 1/3 minority in either house to repeal any law .

    Let's face it, if the law can't garner 2/3's support, it's probably a bad law.

    If it has 1/3 opposition, it's also probably a bad law.

    I mean really, do you need so many laws that you couldn't possibly read them all in your entire life time?
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