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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Who is talking about the UN?

    The UN is not going to bother sport fishermen.



    Then post a link that shows it.
    Ohh.. but you obviously weren't aware we are talking about Obama's nominees directly from Pew, Tides etc... but here's a ditty on the first measures we are talking about.. REMEMBER: nudge, nudge...

    By Patrik Jonsson Patrik Jonsson – Tue Mar 9, 6:17 pm ET

    Atlanta – The Obama administration has proposed using United Nations-guided principles to expand a type of zoning to coastal and even some inland waters. That’s raising concerns among fishermen that their favorite fishing holes may soon be off-limits for bait-casting. In the battle of incremental change that epitomizes the American conservation movement, many weekend anglers fear that the Obama administration’s promise to “fundamentally change” water management in the US will erode what they call the public’s “right to fish,” in turn creating economic losses for the $82 billion recreational fishing industry and a further deterioration of the American outdoorsman’s legacy. Proponents say the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force established by President Obama last June will ultimately benefit the fishing public by managing ecosystems in their entirety rather than by individual uses such as fishing, shipping, or oil exploration. “It’s not an environmentalist manifesto,” says Larry Crowder, a marine biologist at Duke University in North Carolina. “It’s multiple-use planning for the environment, and making sure various uses … are sustainable.” (Amateur outdoorsmen have been fighting for their rights for years, as the Monitor reports here.)

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    Ohh.. but you obviously weren't aware we are talking about Obama's nominees directly from Pew, Tides etc... but here's a ditty on the first measures we are talking about.. REMEMBER: nudge, nudge...

    By Patrik Jonsson Patrik Jonsson – Tue Mar 9, 6:17 pm ET

    Atlanta – The Obama administration has proposed using United Nations-guided principles to expand a type of zoning to coastal and even some inland waters. That’s raising concerns among fishermen that their favorite fishing holes may soon be off-limits for bait-casting. In the battle of incremental change that epitomizes the American conservation movement, many weekend anglers fear that the Obama administration’s promise to “fundamentally change” water management in the US will erode what they call the public’s “right to fish,” in turn creating economic losses for the $82 billion recreational fishing industry and a further deterioration of the American outdoorsman’s legacy. Proponents say the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force established by President Obama last June will ultimately benefit the fishing public by managing ecosystems in their entirety rather than by individual uses such as fishing, shipping, or oil exploration. “It’s not an environmentalist manifesto,” says Larry Crowder, a marine biologist at Duke University in North Carolina. “It’s multiple-use planning for the environment, and making sure various uses … are sustainable.” (Amateur outdoorsmen have been fighting for their rights for years, as the Monitor reports here.)
    Finally! But please post a link so we can all read the whole thing and see the source.

    First of all, the UN would have absolutely no power over this. They just developed the principles. So enough of this "UN control" crap.

    Second, notice that the goal is to sustain fisheries, which benefits everyone. Duh. You can argue that there's no fish problem (good luck with that) or that this solution won't help, but don't make it into another goofy paranoid conspiracy.

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    As I posted in another thread first (which was moved and I got a violation for it) the editor is running away as fast as he can from Montgomery's opinion article although that hasn't stopped the I hate Obama crowd from blaming him.

    Regrettably, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Though our series has included numerous news stories on the topic, this was not one of them -- it was an opinion piece, and should have been clearly labeled as commentary.

    And while our series overall has examined several sides of the topic, this particular column was not properly balanced and failed to represent contrary points of view. We have reached out to people on every side of the issue and reported their points of view -- if they chose to respond -- throughout the series, but failed to do so in this specific column.


    ESPNOutdoors.com: From the editor - ESPN

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    As I posted in another thread first (which was moved and I got a violation for it) the editor is running away as fast as he can from Montgomery's opinion article although that hasn't stopped the I hate Obama crowd from blaming him.

    Regrettably, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Though our series has included numerous news stories on the topic, this was not one of them -- it was an opinion piece, and should have been clearly labeled as commentary.

    And while our series overall has examined several sides of the topic, this particular column was not properly balanced and failed to represent contrary points of view. We have reached out to people on every side of the issue and reported their points of view -- if they chose to respond -- throughout the series, but failed to do so in this specific column.


    ESPNOutdoors.com: From the editor - ESPN
    Nice find.

    So half of us clearly saw it was an unbalanced, unsupported article and the other half swallowed it whole. As usual.

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    that hasn't stopped the I hate Obama crowd from blaming him.

    I ONLY blame Obama for putting the most radical, semi-psychotic, human haters like Janet L., he could find to positions like her's, just like the Diversity Czar of the FCC Marl Lloyd, and Cass Sustien, etc.. LEFT FRINGE WACKOS!

    If he would avoid putting these psycho-commies in positions of power he would not look like such a radical progressive himself and MAYBE folks would have a different impression of his appointees and their radical anti-human agendas.... probably not.

    Bush (progressive-R POS) had a great deal to do with what's going on and doesn't get a pass either. What is going on on the federal level makes absolutely NO sense unless you look at the progressive agenda and then it all becomes clear..

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    I ONLY blame Obama for putting the most radical, semi-psychotic, human haters like Janet L., he could find to positions like her's, just like the Diversity Czar of the FCC Marl Lloyd, and Cass Sustien, etc.. LEFT FRINGE WACKOS!

    If he would avoid putting these psycho-commies in positions of power he would not look like such a radical progressive himself and MAYBE folks would have a different impression of his appointees and their radical anti-human agendas.... probably not.
    Here's a crazy idea - decide what Obama is going to do by what he actually says and does. In other words, don't go around saying he's going to regulate sport fishing until he says "I'm going to regulate sport fishing" or proposes such a regulation. No, that's crazy - paranoid internet rumors are so much more reliable.

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Here's a crazy idea - decide what Obama is going to do by what he actually says and does. In other words, don't go around saying he's going to regulate sport fishing until he says "I'm going to regulate sport fishing" or proposes such a regulation. No, that's crazy - paranoid internet rumors are so much more reliable.
    By then, it may be too late. It was too late with Stalin and Pol Pot.
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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    By then, it may be too late. It was too late with Stalin and Pol Pot.
    But that would mean you would have to assume the absolute worst from every single leader all the time before they do anything, which is absurd. You can't predict who is going to be a Stalin or Pol Pot until they give you a reason. You have no reason with Obama.

    And it would also mean that regulating sport fishing (which is already regulated anyway) is the equivalent of mass murder. It is not. Regulating fishing is a constitutional power of the U.S. government and also not going to hurt you that much, so comparing it to Stalin and Pol Pot is over the top.

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    It's the "fear factor" thingy misterman.

    Worry not. Most folks are "hip" to the tactic now and it goes in one ear and out the other.

    Let the scardy cats wallow in their paranoia. Enjoy the view.

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    Re: Obama government to regulate sport fishing

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It's the "fear factor" thingy misterman.

    Worry not. Most folks are "hip" to the tactic now and it goes in one ear and out the other.

    Let the scardy cats wallow in their paranoia. Enjoy the view.
    I'm not worried. I lived through this black helicopter lunacy with Clinton. It's just interesting to see who will hold onto the conspiracy theory to the bitter end, and how far they'll go. Kind of like watching the Birthers invent even more ridiculous theories to cover the last debunked one.

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