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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

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    Wow, Right... you certainly proved that the man does not stand by his convictions, and is completely bought out by lobbyists. How silly of me!!!
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    He's got a hot wife. That was the beginning and end of the intended message of my post.
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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    He wants single payer, and believes that this bill will not benefit Americans the way it should.
    Then he should have jumped in and defended Massa.
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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    To satisfy Republicans? That was certainly stupid of them since they didn't need any Repub votes. Maybe those voting for Democrats should require those they vote for have basic math skills.

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    Yes it was pretty stupid of them. I don't think they understood at the time that the Republicans will literally vote against anything the Democrats put up right now. If a Democratic Senator floated a bill that repeals every federal gun ban in existence, you'd still end up with a party-line "NO" vote from Team Red.
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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes it was pretty stupid of them. I don't think they understood at the time that the Republicans will literally vote against anything the Democrats put up right now. If a Democratic Senator floated a bill that repeals every federal gun ban in existence, you'd still end up with a party-line "NO" vote from Team Red.

    Wrong again. They understood it just fine. They just do not want to take sole responsibility for owning a catastrophic piece of legislation. After the pointless bailouts they lost some historic elections and are now a little gunshy about showing their true faces.

    Think about it. They way some of you guys talk democrats have an opportunity to take sole credit for the greatest bill since sliced bread....

    Who would not want the credit if that is even partway true?

    The fact is they have filth on their clothes right now and are trying to get opposition parties to dance with them so they can say they are not the only dirty ones.
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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Wrong again. They understood it just fine. They just do not want to take sole responsibility for owning a catastrophic piece of legislation. After the pointless bailouts they lost some historic elections and are now a little gunshy about showing their true faces.

    Think about it. They way some of you guys talk democrats have an opportunity to take sole credit for the greatest bill since sliced bread....

    Who would not want the credit if that is even partway true?

    The fact is they have filth on their clothes right now and are trying to get opposition parties to dance with them so they can say they are not the only dirty ones.
    Wait, so what you're saying is the Democrats knew the Republicans wouldn't vote for the bill, but gave into them repeatedly anyway because they didn't want sole responsibility for a disastrous bill.

    But also that Democrats think it's the greatest thing ever and WOULD want sole credit.

    I'm confused.

    HR3200, the original bill with a public option, was decent. It wouldn't fix all of our problems, but it wouldn't cause many either. The latest one, I believe, just isn't going to accomplish its goals. Worse, it will probably make things harder for families in certain income bands.

    But then again, I'm against this bill because it's too far to the right, not too far to the left. So take that as you will.

    edit: And if this bill truly is "catastrophic," as you think it will be, it will be the noose that the Democratic Party hangs itself with regardless of the number of Republican votes. Do you really think two or three GOP votes is going to make people think this was a Republican bill that screwed things up? This is Obama's legacy, for good or for bad.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes it was pretty stupid of them. I don't think they understood at the time that the Republicans will literally vote against anything the Democrats put up right now. If a Democratic Senator floated a bill that repeals every federal gun ban in existence, you'd still end up with a party-line "NO" vote from Team Red.
    When will people get it through their head that it did not make two-hoots-in-hell worth of difference what the Republicans did. The Democrats had the votes to pass anything they wanted. The Republicans could not stop them. It is really pretty simple.... for anyone with more than half a brain.

    Of course, the kool-aide drinkers have to try to blame someone other than Prez Doofus and the Congressional Demos since they put them in office.

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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    I don't like Kucinch, but I hope his is the killing vote. Obama can't do anything to him.
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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    The best possible thing that could happen to this bill is to put a bullet in its head. Doing something that screws things up worse than they are already screwed up is always worse than doing nothing.

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    Re: Kucinich willing to cast the vote that kills health reform

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    When will people get it through their head that it did not make two-hoots-in-hell worth of difference what the Republicans did. The Democrats had the votes to pass anything they wanted. The Republicans could not stop them. It is really pretty simple.... for anyone with more than half a brain.

    Of course, the kool-aide drinkers have to try to blame someone other than Prez Doofus and the Congressional Demos since they put them in office.

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    Good gawd, we agree on something! You're right... the Dems are as spinless as jellyfish. They should have just gone ahead with their original plan and not care one iota of what the Republicans had to say.
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