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    Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1n4kMDVdxs"]YouTube- Fresh Israeli-Palestinian talks run into brick wall[/ame]

    I'm finding it more and more difficult to be supportive of Israel as this conflict continues. Their invasion of Gaza was NOT a positive step.
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    I think the military defensive operation was a very important step. For years Sderot (and now Ashdod) have been hit with missiles from Gaza. They didn't stop, so Israel had to do what any sane nation would do and defend the citizens who have to deal with missiles hitting their schools and homes. Operation cast lead was an important step, it shows that military action will be done to defend Israeli citizens. The Gazans "elected" Hamas, Hamas fires missiles into Israel, Israel ignores the missiles for a while and then decides to defend its people. Sometimes force is necessary, and if Israel defending itself damages peace then the Palestinians just aren't being peaceful. Also, I wouldn't take Al Jezeera as a non biased source. Calling it all "Jewish construction" isn't right. Why can't Jews live and build in the West Bank? Arabs can do the same in Israel. This is what I don't find reasonable and honestly incredibly racist. No Jews are allowed in Gaza, all Jews were forced out of their homes, and now they say no Jews allowed in the West Bank. Yet Arabs live freely in Israel and enjoy every right as an Israeli citizen... There can be Arab Israelis, why can't there be Jewish Palestinians?

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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Calling it all "Jewish construction" isn't right. Why can't Jews live and build in the West Bank? Arabs can do the same in Israel. This is what I don't find reasonable and honestly incredibly racist. No Jews are allowed in Gaza, all Jews were forced out of their homes, and now they say no Jews allowed in the West Bank. Yet Arabs live freely in Israel and enjoy every right as an Israeli citizen... There can be Arab Israelis, why can't there be Jewish Palestinians?
    Apparently international laws governing the administration of occupied territories is not "reasonable and incredibly racist".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Apparently international laws governing the administration of occupied territories is not "reasonable and incredibly racist".
    His point was that while the Israeli government allows Arabs to live and build in Israel-proper, the international community has a fit every time the Israelis so much as repair a house in the West Bank or East Jerusalem.
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Apparently international laws governing the administration of occupied territories is not "reasonable and incredibly racist".
    Those who support Juden free territories sure are.
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    YouTube- Fresh Israeli-Palestinian talks run into brick wall

    I'm finding it more and more difficult to be supportive of Israel as this conflict continues. Their invasion of Gaza was NOT a positive step.
    Do you find it difficult to support Israelis because of the fact they have been clensed from Gaza despite the fact that ancient Jewish settlements there predate Muslim, or do you find it difficult to support Israel because those Arabs who now call themselves Palestinians have been unleashing unremitting, ethnic-based terror upon Jews for decades?
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Why can't people realize that the Muslims have been engaging in jihad and have invaded and occupied mostly Christian (but also Jewish) lands since the 7th century? And look at the recent spate of barbaric Muslim behavior in Malaysia (church bombings and intentional desecration of the Eucharist) and Nigeria (slashing to death of Christians of all ages).
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Why can't people realize that the Muslims have been engaging in jihad and have invaded and occupied mostly Christian (but also Jewish) lands since the 7th century? And look at the recent spate of barbaric Muslim behavior in Malaysia (church bombings and intentional desecration of the Eucharist) and Nigeria (slashing to death of Christians of all ages).
    Bethlehem is another good example. When the PLO took over in 1995, it was 60% Christian. 15 short years later, it is nearly 85% Muslim.

    It's sure an easy matter to get ignorant people to support totalitarianism, isn't it?
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Bethlehem is another good example. When the PLO took over in 1995, it was 60% Christian. 15 short years later, it is nearly 85% Muslim.

    It's sure an easy matter to get ignorant people to support totalitarianism, isn't it?
    Vatican to Study Christian Exodus from Middle East - Defense/Middle East - Israel News - Israel National News

    Many cases of Arab harassment of Christians in PA areas have been reported in recent years, and the phenomenon of Christians seeking to leave the area is not new. Back in May 2004, Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, visited then-President Moshe Katzav in Jerusalem and acknowledged that the “increasing Christian emigration from the Holy Land in general, and Bethlehem in particular, is troubling to the Vatican.”
    Though, as a Roman Catholic, I disagree with the basic Vatican conclusion as cited in the article.
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    Re: Israel-Palestine Talks Run Into Brick Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I'm finding it more and more difficult to be supportive of Israel as this conflict continues. Their invasion of Gaza was NOT a positive step.
    It's not a matter of positiveness or negativeness, it was a necessary act to maintain the security of the Israeli citizens living in Southern Israel.
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