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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Well, that about wraps this thread up. That was a dirty quicky.

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Canada didn't have Socialized Medicine until 1968 when it began and started down hill from there.
    Just wanted to quote this for inaccuracy.

    The Canadian Health Act took place in 1961 in the Federal Government, but before that each province has its own UHC system. The CHA simply unified and standardized the system.

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Orion, look what you made me do! You made me thank Councilman. COUNCILMAN!

    I feel dirty

    Seriously she was:

    1. A child, so she had no choice over the manner
    2. Living in a part of the country in regards to medical service that likely few places in the country today are on par with
    3. Not partaking in socialized medicine, as I'm pretty sure at that point Canada didn't have socialized medical care.

    /Palin Attack fail
    1. It wasn't her choice but it's still ironic that she is here today because of the benefits from a socialized system.

    2. That one may be true, but her family weren't a bunch of Canadian citizens, now were they?

    3 is wrong, you shouldn't have thanked Councilman for that one.

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    1. It wasn't her choice but it's still ironic that she is here today because of the benefits from a socialized system.
    Not really, its coincidental.

    2. That one may be true, but her family weren't a bunch of Canadian citizens, now were they?
    Nope, they weren't. That said the situation in Alaska at that time in regards to the availability of medical care, and the closest American medical care, is likely leagues different than the current situation in the vast majority of the United States.

    3 is wrong, you shouldn't have thanked Councilman for that one.
    Has it definitely been shown that the time in which she went was after the point where it became socialized?

    Seriously, this still doesn't change /palin attack fail. She didn't choose for it to happen, the situation in Alaska at that time was likely unlike any situation you'd find in the vast majority of the US currently, and nothing says that because it helped her family in youth that it means it would be the best option for the entire country.

    Its mindless idiocy from a media and people who are obsessed, and pathetically so, with insulting, belittling, and smearing Palin at any and every possible oppertunity.

    (edit...not thinkin the OP was attempting to go out of his way to attack Palin, was meaning the person writing the article)

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    While I agree that Ms. Palin's parents bear the burden of responsibility for whatever this supposed faux pas is supposed to be, it's a bit odd that she has given two different versions on the story of her brother's burn (from above link):

    Version 1:
    "My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse: Believe it or not, this was in the 60's, we used to hustle over the border for health care that we would receive in Whitehorse," Palin told the crowd.

    "I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn't that kind of ironic now," Palin added. "Zooming over the border, getting health care from Canada."
    Version 2:
    In 2007, the Skagway News reported:

    "Palin drew from her Skagway past to illustrate her point. Her brother burned his foot badly jumping through a fire and her mother had to take him down to Juneau on the ferry to the hospital.

    "'All these years later, that's still what people have to rely on here in some instances,' she said."

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    As to the OP:

    The only way in which this would have any relevance (even if we pretend that she wasn't six at the time and was responsible for making this choice) would be if her parents looked at the Canadian option v. the US option and chose the Canadian option because of some feature of Canada's universal health care system.

    Given that:

    1) The reason why they went to a Canadian hospital as opposed to a US hospital was because the Canadian hospital was 2 hours closer than the US one, and
    2) The province she went to did not have a program even remotely resembling universal health care until the 70's,

    I can't imagine how this is a story other than for amusement.


    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    While I agree that Ms. Palin's parents bear the burden of responsibility for whatever this supposed faux pas is supposed to be, it's a bit odd that she has given two different versions on the story of her brother's burn (from above link):

    Version 1:


    Version 2:
    Politician embellishes bull**** human interest story. Details at eleven.
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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I'm going to agree with Oftencold on this one. This is something her parents did while she was a kid, so you can't really accuse her of this one.
    But we can blame her for lying.

    "I remember my brother, he burned his ankle in some little kid accident thing and my parents had to put him on a train and rush him over to Whitehorse and I think, isn't that
    kind of ironic now," Palin added.
    "Palin drew from her Skagway past to illustrate her point. Her brother burned his foot badly jumping through a fire and her mother had to take him down to Juneau on the ferry to the hospital.

    "'All these years later, that's still what people have to rely on here in some instances,' she said."
    Or maybe her brother has a problem with burning his lower extremities...

    Let's not also forget that she has access to Indian Health Services because of her husbands heritage. I love a good Sarah Palin the liar/hypocrite story.
    Shannyn Moore: More Palin Hypocrisy: Tripp Has Government Provided Health Insurance

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    As to the OP:

    The only way in which this would have any relevance (even if we pretend that she wasn't six at the time and was responsible for making this choice) would be if her parents looked at the Canadian option v. the US option and chose the Canadian option because of some feature of Canada's universal health care system.

    Given that:

    1) The reason why they went to a Canadian hospital as opposed to a US hospital was because the Canadian hospital was 2 hours closer than the US one, and
    2) The province she went to did not have a program even remotely resembling universal health care until the 70's,

    I can't imagine how this is a story other than for amusement.




    Politician embellishes bull**** human interest story. Details at eleven.
    Would you so readily sweep lies and hypocrisy under the rug if this were an Obama story?

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Would you so readily sweep lies and hypocrisy under the rug if this were an Obama story?
    Seeing how Right is generally an objective, intellectually honest person unlike some people that don't let the facts of a story interrupt their fervent obsession to insult Palin...yeah, I'm guessing he would.

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    Re: Blogs abuzz about Palin's use of Canadian health care

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.



    As you can see, Alaska was NOT Russian Territory. It was purchased from Russia in 1867 and was a US Territory (after being governed by the military) by 1884. It became a STATE in 1959.

    Even with your inaccurate information being said, I would question the availability of medical care in Skagway in the '60s. I'm not sure that Whitehorse was much better, but as the capital of the Yukon Territory, it probably was, so it would make sense to try to get the best medical care available.
    Actually, the notion that Alaska was Russian territory for longer than it was is a pretty common misconception born of the fact that until the mid 1920's, most of the population of Alaska was either Natives or Russian prospectors, trappers, and hunters.

    Skagway, in the 1960's, was barely a dot on the map. Skagway, present day, is barely a dot on the map. If I lived in Skagway, I would probably go Whitehorse for medical treatment, too.

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