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    While You Are Distracted by the Summit, Obama Democrats Are Targeting the CIA

    While You Are Distracted by the Summit, Obama Democrats Are Targeting the CIA - Andy McCarthy - The Corner on National Review Online

    The Obama Democrats have outdone themselves.

    While the country and the Congress have their eyes on today’s dog-and-pony show on socialized medicine, House Democrats last night stashed a new provision in the intelligence bill which is to be voted on today. It is an attack on the CIA: the enactment of a criminal statute that would ban “cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment.” (See here, scoll to p. 32.)

    The provision is impossibly vague — who knows what “degrading” means? Proponents will say that they have itemized conduct that would trigger the statute (I’ll get to that in a second), but it is not true. The proposal says the conduct reached by the statute “includes but is not limited to” the itemized conduct. (My italics.) That means any interrogation tactic that a prosecutor subjectively believes is “degrading” (e.g., subjecting a Muslim detainee to interrogation by a female CIA officer) could be the basis for indicting a CIA interrogator.

    The act goes on to make it a crime to use tactics that have been shown to be effective in obtaining life saving information and that are far removed from torture.

    Waterboarding is not all. The Democrats’ bill would prohibit — with a penalty of 15 years’ imprisonment — the following tactics, among others:

    - “Exploiting the phobias of the individual”

    - Stress positions and the threatened use of force to maintain stress positions

    - “Depriving the individual of necessary food, water, sleep, or medical care”

    - Forced nudity

    - Using military working dogs (i.e., any use of them — not having them attack or menace the individual; just the mere presence of the dog if it might unnerve the detainee and, of course, “exploit his phobias”)

    - Coercing the individual to blaspheme or violate his religious beliefs (I wonder if Democrats understand the breadth of seemingly innocuous matters that jihadists take to be violations of their religious beliefs)

    - Exposure to “excessive” cold, heat or “cramped confinement” (excessive and cramped are not defined)

    - “Prolonged isolation”

    - “Placing hoods or sacks over the head of the individual”
    Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky. You can't turn your head for a second with these liberal gremlins.

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    Re: While You Are Distracted by the Summit, Obama Democrats Are Targeting the CIA

    They already can't deprive them of necessary food and water, what's new there? What's prolonged isolation? Seems to me most of those things were against the rules already.
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    Re: While You Are Distracted by the Summit, Obama Democrats Are Targeting the CIA

    Seems to me the wacko Liberals want to hurt anyone who helped with the war on terror during the Bush Administration,

    Most Liberals I would say have a lynch mob mentality and don't care what damage their actions today have on the future security of our Nation because all they want is blood now.

    If they could they would have Bush and Chaney up on Islamic Sharia charges with penalties that would get them beheaded.

    I doubt Obama wouldn't object to that. The Liberal Democrat Progressives gave become as a group hate mongers who will stop at nothing to demonize anyone who does not go along with their agenda which these days includes destroying out Constitution from within with Obama leading the way.

    It has become shameful almost beyond belief.

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