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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Frankly, I take that as a compliment since in 2007, it seems Toyota was given a lighter recall due to the Bush Administration.

    Those of you who want to attack Democrats on this, I wonder if you would be singing this tune if you had a family member die because of a problem with a Toyota that Toyota was aware of. Maybe not, though.

    Let me remind people that my family has owned Toyotas since 1984. I have a 1996 Toyota Camry.

    Claims by Toyota in internal documents that it saved money by obtaining a limited recall from regulators in 2007 will also create problems for the automaker's president when he testifies before U.S. lawmakers this week.

    Toyota, in an internal presentation in July 2009 at its Washington office, said it saved $100 million or more by negotiating an "equipment recall" of floor mats involving 55,000 Toyota Camry and Lexus ES350 vehicles in September 2007.

    The savings are listed under the title, "Wins for Toyota — Safety Group." The document cites millions of dollars in other savings by delaying safety regulations, avoiding defect investigations and slowing down other industry requirements.

    The documents could set off alarms in Congress over whether Toyota put profits ahead of customer safety and pushed regulators to narrow the scope of recalls.

    Toyota gets grand jury subpoena over recalls - Autos- msnbc.com
    Toyota should be ashamed of itself.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Frankly, I take that as a compliment since in 2007, it seems Toyota was given a lighter recall due to the Bush Administration.

    Those of you who want to attack Democrats on this, I wonder if you would be singing this tune if you had a family member die because of a problem with a Toyota that Toyota was aware of. Maybe not, though.

    Let me remind people that my family has owned Toyotas since 1984. I have a 1996 Toyota Camry.



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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Carbon emissions are but one small issue in the auto regulation field (and emissions are a completely different thing than fuel efficiency ). They are being investigated due to the fact that so many Toyota makes/models are failing in extremely dangerous ways, and the concern over the injuries and deaths associated with these failures isn't remotely partisan.
    Nor does our interest in Toyota's recalls have anything to do with regulation. Products that are patently unsafe don't need regulation to be illegal.

    Unless you're saying that conservatives/Republicans don't own Toyotas, don't give a crap that they are dangerous vehicles, and would therefore never impose safety regulations on an auto maker that produces unsafe cars.

    No, but I would say that conservatives/Republicans are less interested in regulating markets so as to benefit domestic producers because they are much more trusting in the market.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't buy foriegn cars. If me, or my family members are going to die because of a design flaw, then by God, they're going to die in an American car.
    .... I'm sure that will make you feel better.
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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Hm...Toyota's internal documents say that they think the Dems are not industry friendly but Toyota's internal documents also demonstrate that Toyota isn't consumer friendly.

    Toyota saved $100 million by limiting recall - TODAY Technology & Money
    House Panel Criticizes Toyota’s Response to Accelerator Complaints - NYTimes.com

    So maybe one way to interpret that is that Dems are consumer friendly and therefore Toyota hates them for looking out for the little guy instead of their pocketbooks.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    of course, honda says otherwise.
    So does GM these days.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Frankly, I take that as a compliment since in 2007, it seems Toyota was given a lighter recall due to the Bush Administration.

    Those of you who want to attack Democrats on this, I wonder if you would be singing this tune if you had a family member die because of a problem with a Toyota that Toyota was aware of. Maybe not, though.

    Let me remind people that my family has owned Toyotas since 1984. I have a 1996 Toyota Camry.



    Toyota should be ashamed of itself.
    The key here is that Toyata got away with alot under many administrations, not just any one. I hate what the democratic party wants as far as social policy, but I can't argue that if one auto manufacturer has to follow safety regs, etc. and they are to be heavily enforced, then all of them should be on that level playing field. Toyota did dishonest business, people got hurt, and the payment is coming due.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Funny how conservatives are willing to take advice from foreigners when it matches their views...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny how conservatives are willing to take advice from foreigners when it matches their views...
    I have no clue of where you are going with this?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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