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CPAC: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll - ends Romney's CPAC domination

CPAC got it right, even tho faux news hates the outcome

Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has a chance of displacing Obama in 2012

they both have a very strong appeal to the younger voters

as is typically true of the democrats, the republican party leaders will not allow the best candidate to run
 
American said:
I thought you were a conservative, aren't you enthused?
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If you will note just below my user name, it says small "c" conservative, as in one interested in conservation of our resources. Not the large "C" Conservatives that co-opted the name, much like big housing developments co-opt the name of the major feature they destroy to make the development, like "Oak Forest," or "Apple Tree Village."
 
justabubba said:
CPAC got it right, even tho faux news hates the outcome

Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has a chance of displacing Obama in 2012

they both have a very strong appeal to the younger voters

as is typically true of the democrats, the republican party leaders will not allow the best candidate to run
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I voted for him in the Primaries, I like a large portion of his philosophy, but Ron Paul would have absolutely no chance at displacing Obama in 2012. There are far, far to many flaws and issues with him that make him incredibly impractical in any kind of national scale. This is not an indictment on his views, though its part, nor the Republicans, but more one of the general political process and the American voting public at large.
 
justabubba said:
CPAC got it right, even tho faux news hates the outcome

Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has a chance of displacing Obama in 2012

they both have a very strong appeal to the younger voters

as is typically true of the democrats, the republican party leaders will not allow the best candidate to run
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****** I resent You encouraging Obama like this;)
 
American said:
I thought you were a conservative, aren't you enthused?
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He is no Conservative ..........It seems there are tons of liberals in DP that call themselves moderates, independents, and Conservatives but their posts betray them for what they really are.........
 
justabubba said:
CPAC got it right, even tho faux news hates the outcome

Dr. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has a chance of displacing Obama in 2012

they both have a very strong appeal to the younger voters

as is typically true of the democrats, the republican party leaders will not allow the best candidate to run
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Only 2400 voted out of 10,000 hardly a mandate.......
 
Navy Pride said:
He is no Conservative ..........It seems there are tons of liberals in DP that call themselves moderates, independents, and Conservatives but their posts betray them for what they really are.........
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The definition of the word of conservative is all that one needs to unravel the the great mystery.

See what the very first meaning listed for conservative is:

"Main Entry: 1con·ser·va·tive
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈsər-və-tiv\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century

1 : preservative
2 a : of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: as (1) : of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions (2) : progressive conservative
3 a : tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : traditional b : marked by moderation or caution <a conservative estimate> c : marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or manners
4 : of, relating to, or practicing Conservative Judaism

— con·ser·va·tive·ly adverb

— con·ser·va·tive·ness noun"


Conservative - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
 
Catawba said:
If you will note just below my user name, it says small "c" conservative, as in one interested in conservation of our resources. Not the large "C" Conservatives that co-opted the name, much like big housing developments co-opt the name of the major feature they destroy to make the development, like "Oak Forest," or "Apple Tree Village."
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Thanks for the explanation. Explains a lot. My suggestion though would be to change hte lean if you don't want to keep answering such questions (not saying its right, just saying its likely the easiest way to save you trouble). "conservationist" isn't exactly a political lean, in the way the "lean" is generally looked at here, so you're likely to have many people confused. Indeed, even I noted your "little c" but wasn't positive what you meant by it, especially in reference to a political lean. Just a thought
 
Zyphlin said:
Thanks for the explanation. Explains a lot. My suggestion though would be to change hte lean if you don't want to keep answering such questions (not saying its right, just saying its likely the easiest way to save you trouble). "conservationist" isn't exactly a political lean, in the way the "lean" is generally looked at here, so you're likely to have many people confused. Indeed, even I noted your "little c" but wasn't positive what you meant by it, especially in reference to a political lean. Just a thought
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Thanks! I don't find any of the choices for political lean describe my political position as well as first meaning of conservative. If humanist were offered, that would be a better choice but I could only choose from what's provided.

Is there any chance that Humanist could be added to the list of choices?
 
Navy Pride said:
He is no Conservative ..........It seems there are tons of liberals in DP that call themselves moderates, independents, and Conservatives but their posts betray them for what they really are.........
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He's no neo-con, that's for sure. He's not like one of your ilk, the big government, big deficit, big war, big brother type folk. He's definitely in the small, controlled, and constrained government camp. Traditional conservatism, or what conservatism used to be. Many people who call themselves "conservatives" now are in no way shape or form actually conservatives. They're actually for large, intrusive, expensive government. Mostly some form of statist. Ron Paul is not that, he is more of what you would probably call classical conservative.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Wait, wait, wait, this cant be right? It mustve been the liberals. Yea thats it all the liberals secretly invaded CPAC to cast their votes for Paul. No thats not right, liberals think Paul is a racist. Plus with all the anti-liberals there, they cant possibly keep a cool head. Maybe just maybe Paul's message of freedom is actually finally being embraced or maybe Im drunk thats a possibility.

CPAC: Ron Paul wins CPAC straw poll - ends Romney's CPAC domination / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
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I like Ron Paul.

Some of his policy ideas are not a practical as other, but good for him!

BTW -- if I like Ron Paul, what does that make me?
 
Zyphlin said:
I voted for him in the Primaries, I like a large portion of his philosophy, but Ron Paul would have absolutely no chance at displacing Obama in 2012. There are far, far to many flaws and issues with him that make him incredibly impractical in any kind of national scale. This is not an indictment on his views, though its part, nor the Republicans, but more one of the general political process and the American voting public at large.
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Barry Goldwater never had a real chance, but guess what? He brought us Ronald Reagan. I am looking forward to seeing who Ron Paul is going to bring us.
 
hazlnut said:
BTW -- if I like Ron Paul, what does that make me?
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It makes you pretty alright, as far as I'm concerned.

FWIW, Ron Paul is probably the last Republican I'll ever vote for if they continue down this road. Oh well ...
 
danarhea said:
Barry Goldwater never had a real chance, but guess what? He brought us Ronald Reagan. I am looking forward to seeing who Ron Paul is going to bring us.
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There's a large difference in believing that Ron Paul's general ideals could/should be the inspiration for a potential legitimate Presidential nominee and believing that Ron Paul himself can currently be a legitimate Presidential nominee.

I think the majority of his general philosophy, if tempered a bit by some realistic pragmatism, could do very well on a national stage.

I don't think Ron Paul can be the one to do it though.
 
Zyphlin said:
There's a large difference in believing that Ron Paul's general ideals could/should be the inspiration for a potential legitimate Presidential nominee and believing that Ron Paul himself can currently be a legitimate Presidential nominee.

I think the majority of his general philosophy, if tempered a bit by some realistic pragmatism, could do very well on a national stage.

I don't think Ron Paul can be the one to do it though.
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He will be 77 for the 2012 election. That right there will sink any chance he might have had, unfortunately.
 
Zyphlin said:
There's a large difference in believing that Ron Paul's general ideals could/should be the inspiration for a potential legitimate Presidential nominee and believing that Ron Paul himself can currently be a legitimate Presidential nominee.

I think the majority of his general philosophy, if tempered a bit by some realistic pragmatism, could do very well on a national stage.

I don't think Ron Paul can be the one to do it though.
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I agree. As much as I like Ron Paul, he has one flaw that kills his chances. He has no charisma.
 
For what it's worth, Ron Paul was once the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee. This I know because I was briefly a member of the Libertarian Party, and Ron Paul's candidacy was discussed during party meetings.

I don't think that the CPAC straw poll means much because Ron Paul doesn't have the charisma needed in order to be elected to the office of the Presidency.
 
Ron Paul is and Isolationist......We tried that in 1939 and it did not work then and it won't work in 2010...
 
Navy Pride said:
Ron Paul is and Isolationist......We tried that in 1939 and it did not work then and it won't work in 2010...
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How little you know ... :sarcasticclap
 
CPAC was a little odd at times this year. Ron Paul? Come on now. His few good fiscal ideas can't carry him far enough to get to the Presidency.

CPAC's odd ending:
American Thinker: CPAC's Odd Ending
 
Goyboy said:
That's because he is a Libertarian.
He ran for Congress as a Republican because a Libertarian didn't have a good chance at winning a congressional race.
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He's an isolationist because he's a Libertarian?

Wrong on both counts.
 
Navy Pride said:
Another great response from a lefty.....why do I bother........:roll:
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Lefty? You need new material, gramps.

Do you know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism?
 
Porchev said:
CPAC was a little odd at times this year. Ron Paul? Come on now. His few good fiscal ideas can't carry him far enough to get to the Presidency.

CPAC's odd ending:
American Thinker: CPAC's Odd Ending
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That article was complete garbage but its to be expected from a bunch of chicken**** chickenhawk neocons.

Coronado said:
Lefty? You need new material, gramps.

Do you know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism?
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He doesnt, alot of the "principled" cons here on this forum dont know squat between the two. Its easier just to call us commies and be done with it.

Another thing I noticed from the reactions from the "principled" people here and on conservative blogs if Palin or Romney won you can bet your ass they would be signing a different tune.
 
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