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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Well, let's use the idea of Socialism. It's a word and ideaology Conservatives use to strike fear into the American people. But what many people are starting to learn is that there have been aspects of Socialism in the country for years, i.e., Medicare, the Railroad Retirement System, the VA, even the U.S. Postal Service. But many people (particularly those who oppose Pres. Obama) actually believe that he's really trying to impose Socialism on this country on a massive scale and there's just no proof to that whatsoever.

    Conservatives keep spouting off how the Obama Administration is trying to take away rights from the people, but what law/bill has he signed that does that? If anything, he has signed laws that help the American people gain better consumer protection for themselves, thus giving them a stronger voice, i.e., the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, 2009, as one example.

    I see no evidence of the types of things the opposition claims this President is doing on such a grand scale that warrants the levels of fear Republicans/Conservatives are aspousing to. IMO, it's a shame they'd stoop to such levels that do nothing except divide this country more and more.
    What do you call the massive spending Obama is doing when he took over GM/Chrysler, created a Pay Czar, and funded a stimulus program that stimulated nothing other than the growth of govt. and unions.

    All these put us closer to socialism and govt. control including redistribution of wealth.

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    $180 billion to states to expand unemployment benefitsWSJ.com: Partisan Rancor Seeps Into Talks on Stimulus Plan (January 24, 2009)6

    Upgrade 10,000 schoolsMSNBC.com: Obama: Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    Make federal buildings more energy efficientMSNBC.com: Obama: Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    Triple undergraduate and graduate science fellowshipsMSNBC.com: Obama:

    Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    Shift to electronic medical recordsMSNBC.com: Obama: Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    Invest in preventative health careMSNBC.com: Obama: Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    Add 3,000 miles of electrical linesMSNBC.com: Obama: Stimulus plan means lower power bills (January 24, 2009)5

    One-time $300 payment to senior citizensWSJ.com: Partisan Rancor Seeps Into Talks on Stimulus Plan (January 24, 2009)6

    $8 billion investment in high-speed rail, to put people to work improving tracks, crossing and signal repairNew York Times: Slice of Stimulus Package Will Go to Faster Trains (February 20, 2009)11

    $2 billion for energy department projectsSeattle Times: Stimulus package to create 4,400 jobs at Hanford (February 20, 2009)12

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama: ‘Does Obama bashing accomplish anything?’




    And you know what? O'Reilly is absolutely right. Americans don't want to hear how Obama is an illegal alien, or a Nazi, or a Socialist, or how he makes baby Jesus cry. They want to know how his programs are going to impact their bottom lines. But, the message of Obama's spending binge is being drowned out by the crazy and silly.

    O'Reilly has a very good point, and it would behoove Republicans to listen to it, for their own good. Let's stop this silliness, and start getting real and honest.

    Article is here.
    O'Reilly is absolutely correct. Ranting on about how Obama is a Nazi, a Marxist, an illegal alien, and so on just detracts from the issue of growth of government spending and that trillion plus deficit. Such outlandish claims just make Obama's opponents look silly.


    No doubt the mainstream conservatives will address the issues and leave the far out nonsense alone, but there are those out there who will continue to rant and rave and make the rest look bad. Meanwhile, the government just keeps getting bigger and more expensive.
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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I guess you like him because he seems to lean toward the left. Now, he didn't do that when Bush was President, but since Obama is in office, and there is talk of bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, then now he is all of a sudden changing his political stance. Don't trust anybody like that.
    Another wing-nut conspiracy theorist.

    The left isn't abolishing talk radio, taking your guns, your bible or forcing your child to watch gay porn at school. Who really falls for this stuff? You?

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Gone, he never left.


    He's anti-gun, environmentalist, pro-choice, and anti-death penalty.....
    Rev, I don't know if any of this is true.

    O'Reilly went after Tiller, which would lead me to believe he's not pro-choice.

    He routinely makes fun of environmentalists and rips on cap-and-trade constantly.

    I have never heard him say anything about gun control.

    If he's anti-death penalty, I would be shocked. Although if he is, I would say he's in the "natural life" Catholic category, which would mean he is pro-life.

    I'll need to see some evidence to substatiate these claims.

    I can't believe you guys think O'Reilly is liberal. His guest host is Laura Ingraham and his two "regulars" are Dick Morris and Karl Rove. Really?

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Rev, I don't know if any of this is true.

    O'Reilly went after Tiller, which would lead me to believe he's not pro-choice.

    He routinely makes fun of environmentalists and rips on cap-and-trade constantly.

    I have never heard him say anything about gun control.

    If he's anti-death penalty, I would be shocked. Although if he is, I would say he's in the "natural life" Catholic category, which would mean he is pro-life.

    I'll need to see some evidence to substatiate these claims.

    I can't believe you guys think O'Reilly is liberal. His guest host is Laura Ingraham and his two "regulars" are Dick Morris and Karl Rove. Really?
    This post illustrates another problem with the conservative movement. What, exactly, do environmentalism, gun control, abortion, and the death penalty have in common? What does it have to do with the unbridled growth of big government?

    We need to focus our attention on what really matters, and what matters is the out of control spending in Washington. Unless we can somehow begin to get that under control, it won't matter much whether the death penalty is an option or not.
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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    This post illustrates another problem with the conservative movement. What, exactly, do environmentalism, gun control, abortion, and the death penalty have in common? What does it have to do with the unbridled growth of big government?

    We need to focus our attention on what really matters, and what matters is the out of control spending in Washington. Unless we can somehow begin to get that under control, it won't matter much whether the death penalty is an option or not.
    I agree, those are issues that those with little understanding of politics get focused on as some sort of "test" of loyalty.

    That's the problem I have with parties in general. If you can't check every block then you are invalidated as a candidate. So stupid.

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Rev, I don't know if any of this is true.

    O'Reilly went after Tiller, which would lead me to believe he's not pro-choice.

    He routinely makes fun of environmentalists and rips on cap-and-trade constantly.

    I have never heard him say anything about gun control.

    If he's anti-death penalty, I would be shocked. Although if he is, I would say he's in the "natural life" Catholic category, which would mean he is pro-life.

    I'll need to see some evidence to substatiate these claims.

    I can't believe you guys think O'Reilly is liberal. His guest host is Laura Ingraham and his two "regulars" are Dick Morris and Karl Rove. Really?

    Prepare to be shocked.

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Prepare to be shocked.

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    OK, so he is a "natural lifer" Catholic, just as I assumed.

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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Rev, I don't know if any of this is true.

    O'Reilly went after Tiller, which would lead me to believe he's not pro-choice.

    He routinely makes fun of environmentalists and rips on cap-and-trade constantly.

    I have never heard him say anything about gun control.

    If he's anti-death penalty, I would be shocked. Although if he is, I would say he's in the "natural life" Catholic category, which would mean he is pro-life.

    I'll need to see some evidence to substatiate these claims.

    I can't believe you guys think O'Reilly is liberal. His guest host is Laura Ingraham and his two "regulars" are Dick Morris and Karl Rove. Really?




    I've heard him spout many liberal things. the gun thing was a big one.



    I don't think hes a "liberal", he's very "center".... and a little left
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    Re: O’Reilly tells conservatives to stop ‘bashing’ Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you call the massive spending Obama is doing when he took over GM/Chrysler, created a Pay Czar, and funded a stimulus program that stimulated nothing other than the growth of govt. and unions.

    All these put us closer to socialism and govt. control including redistribution of wealth.
    See, now all you've done is rehash/cut-n-paste alot of talking points we've all seen over a dozen times before that really don't provide concrete evidence of a government takeover of anything. It's been a while since I've looked into the GM issue, but as I understand the governments take on it they "own" a majority stake in bonds, not stock options. So, while it may have a "strong voice" in what this auto giant does, it clearly doesn't own it. About the only thing the government has in this matter is a seat on the Board of Directors. And while I understand the concern here, I think it's blown way out of proportion.

    As to the ARRA, it's a 2-year program that did nothing to "control" any level of state-government as so many have wrongfully claimed. If you're shelling out millions of tax payer dollars, shouldn't the government be allowed to oversee who gets the money, how it is spent and police it to ensure it's being used for the exact expressed purposes it was intended for? Okay, granted, the Obama Admin could have done a much better job of tracking the funds, etc., etc., but I don't blame them for putting so many controls on it. If they hadn't you guys would really be on his butt for being even more "irresponsible". As to your claim of the ARRA growing government, it did nothing of the sort. If anything, it allowed those state and federal employees to remain on their jobs OR allowed state/federal agencies to hire temp/contract workers to get some tasks done. But no new branch of government has been created under the ARRA. False claim.

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