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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Enemy doesn't exist? What was 911?

    We are in Iraq,Afghanistan, Pakistan, and have concerns about Iran. Then there is the Israel problems that occur every couple of years.
    Wow. The ability to understand the English Language clearly eludes you.

    The US military circa 1991 was designed to fight and stop a Soviet attack.

    Tell me, did the Soviet Union exist in 1992, 1993, or 1994?

    So tell me genius, what was the sense in maintaining a military designed primarily to stop an enemy that did not exist?

    For someone who talks about the military, you sure seem extremely uninformed about what it was.
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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Iraq was not about oil.
    O'rly? So you think we would have invaded if Iraq had no oil?

    Only a true diehard Bush fan thinks that oil wasn't a reason.

    Wolfowitz even stated that part of the reason to invade Iraq was to break OPEC, which amusingly, I'm totally for.

    When Saddam attacked Kuwait did we go there on our own or was the UN involved?
    When Saddam attacked Kuwait, we were afraid he'd gain increased influence over oil along with a deep water port which could be used in an attack against Saudi Arabia as well as operations to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. If there was no oil in the region, we wouldn't have given a **** about it.
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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    O'rly? So you think we would have invaded if Iraq had no oil?

    Only a true diehard Bush fan thinks that oil wasn't a reason.

    Wolfowitz even stated that part of the reason to invade Iraq was to break OPEC, which amusingly, I'm totally for.



    When Saddam attacked Kuwait, we were afraid he'd gain increased influence over oil along with a deep water port which could be used in an attack against Saudi Arabia as well as operations to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. If there was no oil in the region, we wouldn't have given a **** about it.

    And we still kiss Saudi ass after 19 of them attacked our country on 9/11!
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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Look at the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. 14% of Azeri territory is still being held by the Armenians. Did we give a **** back then? No.

    Sure there's oil...but in tiny amounts and with transportation issues that render it essentially useless to America. Now, Iraq produced more then Azerbaijan does prior to the invasion and had relative ease of access to ocean borne tankers.
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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Look at the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. 14% of Azeri territory is still being held by the Armenians. Did we give a **** back then? No.

    Sure there's oil...but in tiny amounts and with transportation issues that render it essentially useless to America. Now, Iraq produced more then Azerbaijan does prior to the invasion and had relative ease of access to ocean borne tankers.
    Iraq holds the second largest oil reserves on the planet, its easily accessed and inexpensive to refine. Without it we have very short future based on our current oil economy. Iraq's nationalized oil policy was the only obstacle to energy security.

    This was more or less spelled out in Cheney's taskforce on energy in 2001, before we invaded Iraq!

    It could hardly be more clear.
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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please show what requirements the UN placed on our funding for the Persian Gulf War.
    Nice spin answer the question.

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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Wow. The ability to understand the English Language clearly eludes you.

    The US military circa 1991 was designed to fight and stop a Soviet attack.

    Tell me, did the Soviet Union exist in 1992, 1993, or 1994?

    So tell me genius, what was the sense in maintaining a military designed primarily to stop an enemy that did not exist?

    For someone who talks about the military, you sure seem extremely uninformed about what it was.
    No we started downsizing before Clinton. Clinton took it to an extreme.

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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    O'rly? So you think we would have invaded if Iraq had no oil?

    Only a true diehard Bush fan thinks that oil wasn't a reason.

    Wolfowitz even stated that part of the reason to invade Iraq was to break OPEC, which amusingly, I'm totally for.



    When Saddam attacked Kuwait, we were afraid he'd gain increased influence over oil along with a deep water port which could be used in an attack against Saudi Arabia as well as operations to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. If there was no oil in the region, we wouldn't have given a **** about it.
    Nice rant you did not answer my question.. If it was about oil how much oil are we now getting from Iraq?

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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Iraq holds the second largest oil reserves on the planet, its easily accessed and inexpensive to refine. Without it we have very short future based on our current oil economy. Iraq's nationalized oil policy was the only obstacle to energy security.

    This was more or less spelled out in Cheney's taskforce on energy in 2001, before we invaded Iraq!

    It could hardly be more clear.
    How much oil are we now getting from Iraq?

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    Re: Foreign demand falls for Treasuries

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How much oil are we now getting from Iraq?

    Its not about how much we are getting now. Most of the world gets their oil from the Middle East. We use 25% of the world's oil. In other words, our oil based economy goes down the tubes without a steady supply of ME oil in relatively short order.

    Iraq has the second largest oil reserves on planet but Iraq kicked big oil out of their country 38 years ago. With our war, they are back in again!
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