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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    the makeout hobo;
    Obama has passed huge tax cuts, they were part of the stimulus. He has been trying to cut taxes while raising spending. If you remember though, Reagan's Republicans took a beating in 1982, so don't get too cocky
    Better check your numbers because the GOP did not take a beating in 1982

    The GOP picked up 2 Seats in the Senate but did lose House Seats in the 1982 elections

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Noper. Liberal/socialist/marxist/leftist inspired policies/theories/practices always fail....and always come back.
    You really have it all wrong. I just don't understand the ideological "it must be always the way I imagine it, or nothing" stance. To say that any left-leaning anything will always fail, is just as idiotic as saying that it will always work.

    Look, sometimes the market is good, sometimes it inspires corruption. sometimes regulation hurts, and sometimes it helps. sometimes the government can run things, and sometimes it shouldn't.

    That's why most people self identify as moderates. Because it's obvious that every problem has a variety of solutions, problems don't resemble each other, and that times change.
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    Better check your numbers because the GOP did not take a beating in 1982

    The GOP picked up 2 Seats in the Senate but did lose House Seats in the 1982 elections
    They lost 27 house seats. That's a beating as far as I'm concerned. And according to wiki, in the senate it was a tie, neither side really gained a seat.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    They lost 27 house seats. That's a beating as far as I'm concerned. And according to wiki, in the senate it was a tie, neither side really gained a seat.
    No, the Senate went from 53 to 55 GOP Senators, that isn't a tie. Yes, the GOP lost Representatives but gained them back in 1984. Reagan inherited a disaster, Obama contributed to the one he "inherited"

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, the Senate went from 53 to 55 GOP Senators, that isn't a tie. Yes, the GOP lost Representatives but gained them back in 1984. Reagan inherited a disaster, Obama contributed to the one he "inherited"
    Chris Hecht (R) won in Nevada
    Paul Trible (R) won in Virginia
    Frank Lautenberg (D) won in New Jersey
    Jeff Bingaman (D) won in New Mexico

    Which race am i missing here?
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Chris Hecht (R) won in Nevada
    Paul Trible (R) won in Virginia
    Frank Lautenberg (D) won in New Jersey
    Jeff Bingaman (D) won in New Mexico

    Which race am i missing here?
    Check out the makeup of the 97th and 98th Congress.

    Rather irrelevant however when the issue is Reaganomics vs. obamanomics. Which one benefits the private sector and thus the majority in this country more.

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    It has only been obvious for some time now that he would fail. This country is just not going to put up with a left-winger (aka Progressive) precisely because hard left policy cannot succeed. It cannot provide what the mainstream of America ultimately needs and desires.

    The ultimate test of whether or not the President is really a Progressive will be by seeing what he does if the Republicans win back control of Congress. If he holds some level of moderation, he will compromise like Clinton did. But if he is a true Progressive, he will fight them until his last day in office. So give this guy a Democrat Congress, and watch him continue to fail.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    You of all people should support Obama . After all he is finally going after terrorists in Afghanistan. He is doing what Bush should have done 7 years ago.
    and I support where I think he has gone right on Afghanistan. I wish he had given Gen McCrystal all of what he asked for as opposed to 3/4ths, but am glad he's still willing to use drone attacks and a surge strategy.

    It is way too early to judge Obama. It is only the start of his second year.
    he has done (and tried to do) plenty enough in the first year that we can begin to judge him as a president. from soft-balling Iran (for which i judge Bush as well), to that disaster of a "stimulus" package, to cap-and-tax, to taking over the banks, car companies, and so forth, to the general instability that he fosters, there is plenty to establish what kind of president he is.

    It is not 1980. If the economy starts turning around in a couple of years no one will have a chance against Obama.
    obama's own (usually rosier than reality) predictions are that unemployment will remain high, and his actions seem almost calculated to hurt the private sector at the expense of the public one. i'm serious when i say republicans could run Palin and win in 2012.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    obama's own (usually rosier than reality) predictions are that unemployment will remain high, and his actions seem almost calculated to hurt the private sector at the expense of the public one. i'm serious when i say republicans could run Palin and win in 2012.
    Yes, they could run Palin, and the Democrats are no doubt hoping that they do. Win? Well, that's another matter. They stand a much better chance of winning with a viable candidate.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, they could run Palin, and the Democrats are no doubt hoping that they do. Win? Well, that's another matter. They stand a much better chance of winning with a viable candidate.
    Hey, worked for the Democrats in 2008 as they ran the most unqualified individual ever to campaign for the office of the Presidency and win it. We are all paying the price for that decision now.

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