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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    There never was a question about spending but the question arises as how the govt. spends the taxpayer money. Reagan and Bush both understood that you stimulate the economy through the private sector, not the public sector.
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    That's funny. They both were totally irresponsible when it came to government spending.
    You do know Reagans stimulus lasted only as long as his presidency. Bush I had to clean up his mess. And do you remember his Savings and Loan crisis that cost taxpayers 200 billion?
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    No it won't. Reagan got his ass kicked in 1982 and swept the nation in 1984. Similar things have happened pretty regularly. The party was considering whether to even RUN Reagan in 1984 it was so bad. Now days people think he's a saint.
    What is it that Obama has proposed or implemented that you support and has made things better?

    I was around during the 80's, were you old enough to know the state of the economy then? There was never any question that Reagan would be nominated and wouldn't win in a landslide.

    Reagan got it, you stimulate the economy through the private sector, not the public sector like Obama is doing. His across the board tax cuts that were passed in August 1981 started turning this country around in 1982 until we were in a full fledge recover in 1983. Reagan's record is one that Obama is running from and thus the results will not be the same.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    That's funny. They both were totally irresponsible when it came to government spending.
    You do know Reagans stimulus lasted only as long as his presidency. Bush I had to clean up his mess.
    LOL, were you old enough in the 80's to understand the economy that Reagan did inherit? Reagan actually inherited a disaster whereas Obama while in the Senate helped create the disaster.

    Reagan economy doubled govt. revenue, doubled GDP, and created over 20 million jobs. That is confirmed by BEA.gov and BLS.gov

    Obama is stimulating the growth of govt, not the growth of the private sector which is what Reagan focused on. GHW Bush lost because he abandoned Reaganomics and his "read my lips" comments are similar to Obama's "if you make less than 250,000 your taxes will not go up one dime"

    I sure wish that people who didn't work or actually experience the 80's would stop trying to re-write the history of the 80's. There are some great non partisan sites to get the facts. My personal income doubled in the 80's just like the Government's

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Check out what happened to the national debt during the era of "trickle down" economics:

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    You of all people should support Obama . After all he is finally going after terrorists in Afghanistan. He is doing what Bush should have done 7 years ago.

    It is way too early to judge Obama. It is only the start of his second year. It is not 1980. If the economy starts turning around in a couple of years no one will have a chance against Obama. If things get worse, Obama is gone.
    I love how Obama is representative of whether the economy improves / declines, where other branches, reasoning don't set in.

    So when did he state withdrawal of troops would fully take effect? Mid-summer 2011? I doubt it'll end there...

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    Navy, have you ever heard of "confirmation bias" or "cognitive dissonance?"
    Boy you had to dig for those quotes......
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Check out what happened to the national debt during the era of "trickle down" economics:

    Trickle down economics had nothing to do with creating the debt but like with all debt it has to do with govt. spending too much money. If you think that is bad Obama is blowing that chart out of the water.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    What is it that Obama has proposed or implemented that you support and has made things better?
    I think the stimulus and similar acts have been good for the economy, as well as financial reform packages we'll hopefully get through.

    I was around during the 80's, were you old enough to know the state of the economy then? There was never any question that Reagan would be nominated and wouldn't win in a landslide.
    Why not? I wasn't quite there, so I'm interested in hearing your version of things.

    Reagan got it, you stimulate the economy through the private sector, not the public sector like Obama is doing. His across the board tax cuts that were passed in August 1981 started turning this country around in 1982 until we were in a full fledge recover in 1983. Reagan's record is one that Obama is running from and thus the results will not be the same.
    Obama has passed huge tax cuts, they were part of the stimulus. He has been trying to cut taxes while raising spending. If you remember though, Reagan's Republicans took a beating in 1982, so don't get too cocky.
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If Obama's policies fail, will the left finally admit that this crap doesn't work and consider options different from they've pushed for the last 40 years?
    Noper. Liberal/socialist/marxist/leftist inspired policies/theories/practices always fail....and always come back.
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    the makeout hobo;1058573479]I think the stimulus and similar acts have been good for the economy, as well as financial reform packages we'll hopefully get through.
    The stimulus was supposed to cap unemployment at 8% and it exceeded 10% and is closer to 16% when you count all the eligible workers millions of whom have dropped out of the labor market. What exactly did the stimulus plan stimulate?


    Why not? I wasn't quite there, so I'm interested in hearing your version of things.
    Reagan cut taxes 25% over three years putting more money into the taxpayers hands. That stimulated 20 million new jobs and thus new taxpayers. It isn't a version it is reality.

    People spending their own money is what stimulates the economy not govt. spending. Think about how having more money affects you and what you do with the money? Multiply that by 160 million workers who pay taxes and got to keep more of their money.


    Obama has passed huge tax cuts, they were part of the stimulus. He has been trying to cut taxes while raising spending. If you remember though, Reagan's Republicans took a beating in 1982, so don't get too cocky
    Sorry but that isn't correct, his was a rebate and those that got the tax cuts now have to pay most if it back by being in a higher tax bracket.

    Getting cocky isn't what I do but I wonder why people like you support what Obama is doing? What did you learn in school as to the role of the Federal Govt? Think Reagan or Obama got it right?

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