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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perhaps he will be, and perhaps not. The Republican Party has indeed lost its way. Maybe it will find its conservative roots, maybe the voters will forget about the disaster that was the Bush administration. Maybe Obama will screw up so badly that the Republicans will get elected even if the party doesn't get its act together.

    But, don't count on it yet.
    Look, I will concede that the Bush Administration with the help of Congress including a Democrat Controlled Congress the last two years of his Administration spent too much money but I will not buy the statement that his Adminstration was a disaster.

    We have 46 straight months of strong economic growth. We had to pay for 9/11 which many seem to forget happened. We also had three major hurricanes which had to be paid for.

    The non partisan facts seem to refute the claim of a disaster. What we have now is a disaster in the WH, someone who has taken Bush spending and put it on steroids. As was pointed out by someone else here, the deficit the first 6 years of the Bush Administration excuding the 9/11 expense pales in comparison to the expenses of a Democrat Controlled Congress and the expenses now being generated by this President and by the liberal Congress.

    By current standards the Bush Administration was a rousing success.

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

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    Look, I will concede that the Bush Administration with the help of Congress including a Democrat Controlled Congress the last two years of his Administration spent too much money but I will not buy the statement that his Adminstration was a disaster.

    We have 46 straight months of strong economic growth. We had to pay for 9/11 which many seem to forget happened. We also had three major hurricanes which had to be paid for.

    The non partisan facts seem to refute the claim of a disaster. What we have now is a disaster in the WH, someone who has taken Bush spending and put it on steroids. As was pointed out by someone else here, the deficit the first 6 years of the Bush Administration excuding the 9/11 expense pales in comparison to the expenses of a Democrat Controlled Congress and the expenses now being generated by this President and by the liberal Congress.

    By current standards the Bush Administration was a rousing success.
    Let's see.

    We had to pay for 9/11? Does that mean that the buildings had to be rebuilt and the city restored?

    After nine years and seven billion dollars, that still hasn't happened, but then, that is the fault of New York politics rather than Washington politics.

    Is that increase in deficit from zero to 477 billion due to paying for 9/11? What did we have to do that cost that much money?

    As for the war in Iraq, it was not Iraq that attacked the US on 9/11. That was an elective war against Saddam Hussain, followed by an ill advised nation building project that was paid for on the national credit card.

    Then there was the lack of regulation of the banks, that led at least in part to the economic meltdown of 2008, you know, the one that partisans want to blame on the Democrat president who hadn't yet taken power.

    Then, there was the so called "Patriot" act.

    Yes, disaster is a much better description than "rousing success", but, then compared to the current practice of, in your words, taking Bush spending and putting it on steroids", maybe the Bush era wasn't so bad after all.

    It's kind of like saying that, compared to the hurricane that hit New Orleans, the blizzard on the East Coast wasn't so bad.

    In fact, they were experiencing great weather, by comparison.
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Really? I don't recall any attempt at passing a balanced budget amendment when we had a majority Republican Congress and a Republican president. In fact, where I was, the budget was being busted then, too. Maybe it was different where you were. Now, as for that balanced budget during the latter part of the Clinton Administration, which was it, fuzzy math, or an effort by Republicans to counter the wishes of the Democrat president?

    Your reasoning seems to be something like this:

    Republicans are conservatives, therefore the balanced budget (if there was one) has to have been the work of Republicans, because they're the fiscally conservative party.

    It's very logical, in a circular sort of way.


    C'mon, admit it. The Republicans are no more fiscally conservative than the Democrats are.
    There was no need for and amendment,,,,,,,Like I said it was fuzzy mathe by the Clinton administration but thanks to Newt and the Contract with America the budget was balanced.....How can you not know that?
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Everybody keeps talking about Bush, Clinton, dems, republicans, like theres a dimes worth of difference between em!

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Dittohead not!;1058578203]Let's see.

    We had to pay for 9/11? Does that mean that the buildings had to be rebuilt and the city restored?

    GAO says 9/11 cost over a trillion dollars. Ask them where the money went

    After nine years and seven billion dollars, that still hasn't happened, but then, that is the fault of New York politics rather than Washington politics.
    Is that increase in deficit from zero to 477 billion due to paying for 9/11? What did we have to do that cost that much money?
    The deficit wasn't zero and again GAO claims 9/11 cost over a trillion dollars

    As for the war in Iraq, it was not Iraq that attacked the US on 9/11. That was an elective war against Saddam Hussain, followed by an ill advised nation building project that was paid for on the national credit card.
    The invasion of Iraq came in 2003, not 2001-2002, and cost 100 billion a year.

    Then there was the lack of regulation of the banks, that led at least in part to the economic meltdown of 2008, you know, the one that partisans want to blame on the Democrat president who hadn't yet taken power.
    Ask Barney Frank and Chris Dodd about those regulations, and better yet ask ACORN

    Then, there was the so called "Patriot" act.
    Not sure anyone would please you as President

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Everybody keeps talking about Bush, Clinton, dems, republicans, like theres a dimes worth of difference between em!


    I certainly see no difference between Republicans who can't pass a balanced budget and Democrats who can't pass a balanced budget.

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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

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    I certainly see no difference between Republicans who can't pass a balanced budget and Democrats who can't pass a balanced budget.
    Your right in this day there is very little difference between a Republican and a Democrat but there is a huge difference between a Liberal and a Conservative..........
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There was no need for and amendment,,,,,,,Like I said it was fuzzy mathe by the Clinton administration but thanks to Newt and the Contract with America the budget was balanced.....How can you not know that?
    No need for a balanced budget amendment? Imagine what would have been avoided had such an amendment been passed. How else are we going to keep Washington from borrowing us into the poorhouse? Surely you must know by now that voting Republican isn't going to do it.
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No need for a balanced budget amendment? Imagine what would have been avoided had such an amendment been passed. How else are we going to keep Washington from borrowing us into the poorhouse? Surely you must know by now that voting Republican isn't going to do it.
    It isn't that easy to get a amendment through.........

    I don't vote Republicans I vote against Liberal democrats........
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post


    This is exactly why we keep electing the worst people possible. People like you settle for mediocrity.
    Well at least you are willing to admit President Obama is just another one of the "worst people possible".

    But what do you attribute your failure to?

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