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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    1. Clinton was to busy with Monica to worry about security
    2. Everyone was for taking out Saddam when they thought he had WMD.
    3. The economy is 10 times worse now.
    4. Obama has tripled it in a year.............
    Correct so far.

    Obama and Bush tripled the deficit, Bush decided to invade Iraq because god told him to, and Rummy said it would all be over in less than six months.

    What a team. Aren't you glad that the president is limited by the Constitution as to what damage they can cause? Just imagine what we would have if the pres really were a king.
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Correct so far.

    Obama and Bush tripled the deficit, Bush decided to invade Iraq because god told him to, and Rummy said it would all be over in less than six months.

    What a team. Aren't you glad that the president is limited by the Constitution as to what damage they can cause? Just imagine what we would have if the pres really were a king.
    Yes Obama has almost destroyed this country in one year......at least it took Bush 8.........
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    Yes Obama has almost destroyed this country in one year......at least it took Bush 8.........
    That's really funny.

    Bush inherited a country at peace that had the first budget surplus in years. He created the biggest deficit ever up to that time. He ignored warnings from the Clinton admin about El Qaeda. He invaded a foreign country on false pretenses and that invasion began a quagmire. He subverted the Constitution, brought ultra-partisanship into all government agencies, bungled the response to Hurricane Katrina, and those are only the things I can think of off the top of my head.

    Obama inherited the worst economy in 70 years, a healthcare system in crisis, two wars, and all sorts of other problems. It's true that the economy continues to be bad and that a lot of other problems remain unsolved. But saying Obama is worse than Bush is a complete joke.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    DenverGreg;1058576566]That's really funny.

    Bush inherited a country at peace that had the first budget surplus in years. He created the biggest deficit ever up to that time. He ignored warnings from the Clinton admin about El Qaeda. He invaded a foreign country on false pretenses and that invasion began a quagmire. He subverted the Constitution, brought ultra-partisanship into all government agencies, bungled the response to Hurricane Katrina, and those are only the things I can think of off the top of my head.
    Please tell us where you get your information, there was no budget surplus when you remove SS which shouldn't be on budget anyway.

    Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act that called for the removal of Saddam Hussein.

    Seems the further we get from Clinton the more people distort his record. Unfortunately he was an opportunity lost.

    People who supported Clinton shouldn't be talking about Bush circumventing the Constitution. It is a violation of the Constitution for the President of the United States to break the laws regarding lying under oath.

    Obama inherited the worst economy in 70 years, a healthcare system in crisis, two wars, and all sorts of other problems. It's true that the economy continues to be bad and that a lot of other problems remain unsolved. But saying Obama is worse than Bush is a complete joke
    Please tell me what Obama did as a Senator and how he isn't just as responsible for the mess as Bush? You seem to be out of touch with reality and buy what you are told by the media. Please do some research and get the facts.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

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    Please tell us where you get your information, there was no budget surplus when you remove SS which shouldn't be on budget anyway.
    It is generally recognized by nearly everyone that there was a budget surplus when Clinton left office. Your position is a fringe view. I'm not going to waste time rebutting it.


    Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act that called for the removal of Saddam Hussein.
    Even if true, so what? He didn't launch the invasion/quagmire.

    Seems the further we get from Clinton the more people distort his record. Unfortunately he was an opportunity lost.

    People who supported Clinton shouldn't be talking about Bush circumventing the Constitution. It is a violation of the Constitution for the President of the United States to break the laws regarding lying under oath.
    I have never defended Clinton's lying about Lewinski. However, he did not institute unconstitutional wiretaps, kidnap and torture prisoners, or throw people in prison for years without trials. If you think Clinton's tryst with Lewinski is worse, then that's your right. I would strongly disagree with that, however.


    Please tell me what Obama did as a Senator and how he isn't just as responsible for the mess as Bush? You seem to be out of touch with reality and buy what you are told by the media. Please do some research and get the facts.
    Wow, I thought these things were supposed to be civil.

    Again, we were already in the throes of this economic crisis BEFORE OBAMA TOOK POWER. How in the world could he be equally responsible for things that took place BEFORE HE CAME TO OFFICE? Was he using microwaves to control the brain of Bush? It wouldn't surprise me if you thought that because it seems in line with your other views.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    =DenverGreg;1058576654]It is generally recognized by nearly everyone that there was a budget surplus when Clinton left office. Your position is a fringe view. I'm not going to waste time rebutting it.
    No, my view comes from the U.S. Treasury Dept. website which is the checkbook of the United States. You ought to get the facts vs. buying what "everyone" else tells you. Check out where that surplus came from, use of SS funds. Was that the intent of SS funds?

    http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/annrpt00.pdf


    Even if true, so what? He didn't launch the invasion/quagmire.
    "Quagmire"? Right out of the leftwing manual. Check out the Democratic quotes which led up to the war in Iraq. These are the people that had the same intelligence information as Bush. The Senate was under control of the Democrats and voted 76-23 in favor of the war, supported the war until the war turned south and even remained negative as Bush turned the tide and won the war. Obama has adopted the Bush doctrine in Iraq and the Bush Secretary of Defense.



    I have never defended Clinton's lying about Lewinski. However, he did not institute unconstitutional wiretaps, kidnap and torture prisoners, or throw people in prison for years without trials. If you think Clinton's tryst with Lewinski is worse, then that's your right. I would strongly disagree with that, however.
    Neither did Bush, but that isn't what the leftwing is going to tell you. Had Bush done what you and the left claimed, why wasn't he impeached? Democrats preferred to have the talking points to the facts.



    Again, we were already in the throes of this economic crisis BEFORE OBAMA TOOK POWER. How in the world could he be equally responsible for things that took place BEFORE HE CAME TO OFFICE? Was he using microwaves to control the brain of Bush? It wouldn't surprise me if you thought that because it seems in line with your other views.
    You really don't know how our govt. works, do you? obama was in the Senate when the housing crisis bubble burst. He and the Democrats prevented Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac oversight rules to be even debated. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd did more damage to the financial institution along with Obama and his ties to ACORN than Bush ever could or did.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, my view comes from the U.S. Treasury Dept. website which is the checkbook of the United States. You ought to get the facts vs. buying what "everyone" else tells you. Check out where that surplus came from, use of SS funds. Was that the intent of SS funds?

    http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/annrpt00.pdf




    "Quagmire"? Right out of the leftwing manual. Check out the Democratic quotes which led up to the war in Iraq. These are the people that had the same intelligence information as Bush. The Senate was under control of the Democrats and voted 76-23 in favor of the war, supported the war until the war turned south and even remained negative as Bush turned the tide and won the war. Obama has adopted the Bush doctrine in Iraq and the Bush Secretary of Defense.





    Neither did Bush, but that isn't what the leftwing is going to tell you. Had Bush done what you and the left claimed, why wasn't he impeached? Democrats preferred to have the talking points to the facts.





    You really don't know how our govt. works, do you? obama was in the Senate when the housing crisis bubble burst. He and the Democrats prevented Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac oversight rules to be even debated. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd did more damage to the financial institution along with Obama and his ties to ACORN than Bush ever could or did.

    Obama Caught in a Major ACORN Lie - Big Government

    My views are backed by facts, yours are backed by opinions.
    Having some problems, Denver, with someone giving you facts that counter your own opinion? Not surprising, USA is having the same problem.

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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGreg View Post
    That's really funny.

    Bush inherited a country at peace that had the first budget surplus in years. He created the biggest deficit ever up to that time. He ignored warnings from the Clinton admin about El Qaeda. He invaded a foreign country on false pretenses and that invasion began a quagmire. He subverted the Constitution, brought ultra-partisanship into all government agencies, bungled the response to Hurricane Katrina, and those are only the things I can think of off the top of my head.

    Obama inherited the worst economy in 70 years, a healthcare system in crisis, two wars, and all sorts of other problems. It's true that the economy continues to be bad and that a lot of other problems remain unsolved. But saying Obama is worse than Bush is a complete joke.
    Get off the left wing moveon.org talking points..they are old and stale.....come up with something new...........
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    Re: CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012

    If Clinton had a budget surplus and I believe it was all fuzzy math it was because of the Republican congress and New Gingrich and his contract with america......They made slick willie balance the budget which he did not want to do....
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    Re: Only 44% say they would vote Obama in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Get off the left wing moveon.org talking points..they are old and stale.....come up with something new...........
    Why? Those are FACTS! You seem to see only what you want to see. I have some reservations about your ability to understand anything other than the GOP "talking points"...
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