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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Baroness Tongue is not a leftist Lackers, antisemite probably

    Ps she was sacked by nick clegg

    PPS she has been trying to explain her crass remarks.
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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Lib Dem frontbencher Tonge fired
    (UKPA) 5 hours ago

    A Liberal Democrat frontbencher has been sacked after calling for an inquiry into allegations that Israeli soldiers supporting the relief effort in Haiti had been involved with organ-trafficking.

    Party leader Nick Clegg removed Baroness Tonge as a Lib Dem health spokeswoman in the Lords, describing her remarks as "wrong, distasteful and provocative". It is the second time she has been fired for making controversial comments about Israel.
    Source: UKPressAssociation

    David Duke in a dress. How many times must the Liberal Democrat party sack her before they realize Lady Tonge is an abject embarrassment and a nasty creature?

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Ignore the issue and focus on rule of law and precedence. Allegations are not the responsibility of the accused to disprove but rather the accusers to prove, or at the least provide ample evidence to warrant an investigation.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    My relative Baroness Alma Birk would have nutted her.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: UKPressAssociation

    David Duke in a dress. How many times must the Liberal Democrat party sack her before they realize Lady Tonge is an abject embarrassment and a nasty creature?
    within all levels of British society there are antisemites.

    The problem is that there are a lot in the unelected house of lords, the libs can remove the whip from her but then she will remain as a stupid independant member.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ignore the issue and focus on rule of law and precedence. Allegations are not the responsibility of the accused to disprove but rather the accusers to prove, or at the least provide ample evidence to warrant an investigation.
    That's true, but just in term of good journalistic manners, I think the author could have devoted at least a paragraph to why the allegation is unsubstantiated and ridiculous. When you call someone a lonney without explaining why she is one, you sound like an ass yourself even if the person really is a looney.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    When you call someone a lonney without explaining why she is one, you sound like an ass yourself even if the person really is a looney.
    Some things are obvious and self-evident. The Haitian earthquake relief effort was covered in-depth by print/broadcast/internet media from all over the globe. Not one journalist reported anything amiss in regards to the Israeli relief contributions.

    As was denoted above, Lady Tonge has been sacked by her own party and she is now engaged in backpedaling and damage control.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Some things are obvious and self-evident. The Haitian earthquake relief effort was covered in-depth by print/broadcast/internet media from all over the globe. Not one journalist reported anything amiss in regards to the Israeli relief contributions.

    As was denoted above, Lady Tonge has been sacked by her own party and she is now engaged in backpedaling and damage control.
    I believe the fact that she has been sacked is afterward and wasn't mentioned in the article itself? The point is that a reader would have to search for other sources to confirm that in fact nothing has been covered or proven about this allegation and while the claim might be "obvious and self-evident" to you, one can't assume that everyone see things the same way, a good journalist would not assume that the unspoken is understood by all.

    And BTW, just because something isn't covered, doesn't mean it's untrue, though in this case, it's too far-fetched to be taken as true unless there are evidence to support it.

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    She has been sacked from the front bench, clegg cannot remove her from the lib/dems, only her local party can remove her membership.That may happen but she would retain her seat.

    She cannot be tossed out at the next elections because she is unelected.


    She does seem a perfect member for UKIP

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    Re: A liberal Dem and a blood libel

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    And BTW, just because something isn't covered, doesn't mean it's untrue, though in this case, it's too far-fetched to be taken as true unless there are evidence to support it.
    This is covered by the MSM as I demonstrated in Post #12. There are also thousands of online reports about the various Haitian relief efforts/teams.

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