Oracle of Utah
Truth rings hollow in empty heads.
The pictures clearly show Schiavo's brain missing large, key and vital parts necessary for life but Bicycleman defends Navy's insane argument purely out of ideological support.
Anyone who thinks that the pictures are the same is certifiably nuts.
"If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu
Its not YOUR call. Its his!
And if he can't make the call, obvious its the Nanny State Government's call on what your family member wants. Because obviously someone like Jeb Bush, who never would've met your father a single solitary time in his life, OBVIOUSLY has a better understanding of what he'd want than a person that lived and bonded with him for multiple decades.
I mean jesus, who do you think you are. Don't you know the Government is the only answer.
Thank you Navy. Its always good to see how much you love the government telling us what we can do. Thank god for the government, what would we do without it.
In all seriousness, I think a living will should be something everyones advised to make. That said, if not present I think I'd be far more comfortable with the family, not the government, making this call in the majority of cases. Sure, there may be some where it goes the other way, but the majority I think wouldn't.
Also, one final note....
Last edited by Zyphlin; 02-24-10 at 10:35 PM.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
But it came about after months of wondering whether or not he was going to come out of his coma and years of wondering whether or not he'd even get to this point. He spent about a year like an infant, and another as what can essentially be described as a really big toddler to finally reach the child-like state he is in now.
But if at any point in the point in the process, someone who didn't know my father had tried to come and take away the ability to decide from us, I would have become very violent, to the point that I would likely have been put in jail.
Of all of the issues that get debated in this country, the one issue that truly sparks a violent rage in me is this one. I've encountered people I think deserve a throttling from both sides of this debate. Those are the people who've never faced the situation but try to demonize the family members for their decision.
Since my father's accident, there have been two times that I nearly lost it with a person on this topic. One time a person said something along the lines of removing feeding tubes etc. is murder and people who make that decision deserve to 'rot in hell' and the other time it was that people who don't allow their loved one's to die were 'selfish and disgusting'.
In both cases my wife very wisely stepped in before I could react.
Like I said, I don't care which side of the debate a person is on. My general opinion is that if they haven't faced the decision themselves, they are classless animals if they demonize those who have. And demonizing a particular decision is the same as demonizing those who have made that particular decision.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.
I agree, Tucker.
Originally Posted by Jerry