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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    For my family's sake, if I ever suffer injuries like my fathers, I have a living will saying that I should be taken off of life support early, when the decision can still be made.

    That's why the partisan political bull**** surrounding right to die cases sickens me. The loudest, most grating voices on each side of the debate haven't dealt with the situation.

    After months of sitting in a ICU for months and working closely with the people at RIC's TBI floor here for nearly a year, I've seen the whole gamut of brain injuries.

    I've seen the families of people who suffer from TBI. I've seen marriages get turned into dependent/guardian relationships. Children taking over the role of parent, and parents reduced to being a child. Athletes turned into cripples and geniuses turned into mentally challenged.

    And I've seen plain old miracles. People who were given no chance that are living as though they never got hurt. People who were expected to be in a persistent vegetative state that are living today.

    I've also seen the reverse. The anti-miracles. People who were expected to have a good chance of recovery that are in terrible shape years after the injury.

    There's no way to predict it.

    And there is as much diversity of thought within these communities as there is in the rest of the nation.

    The difference is, we who have faced these things know about how things go after the decision is made.

    Regardless of the choice a person makes, they are going to live with it for the rest of their lives. And no matter the choice, the reality of that choice often sucks. They don't need clueless assholes making it harder on them.

    This is an issue that the government and the uninformed need to stay the **** out of. I don't care which side of the debate they are on.

    This is an issue that is very emotional for me, and I won't even try to pretend that I'm using reason in this argument.
    I to have a living will.......Its to bad everyone doesn't have one........If that was the case we would not be arguing now..........
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Evidently the guy in the coma is responding
    Then you can't compare the two cases. She had a ZERO PERCENT chance of waking up. ZERO, NADA, ZILCH. She was dead. She had died years before. All that was left was her body.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post

    But this child-like doppelganger that has replaced him doesn't have the same intelligence or personality that he had and, by some miracle, it's happy as it is.

    That's the only thing that keeps me going. The fact that the doppelganger is happy in this state.
    In another thread thoughts of my mentally retarded brother have been brought to the surface, and one thing that has always been a source of comfort for me is the simplistic yet pure happiness he is able to exude at times. there is truth behind the statement ignorance is bliss. The effect of that simplistic baby like innocent happiness can be profound, and it never fails to override all else with a feeling of peace and serenity, it is contagious, and powerful.

    I am glad your father has this aura of happiness, and that you are able to share in that still.
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

    'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



    'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
    Feb 4 2010



    London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

    The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

    Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident
    If you had read the research you would have found that this ONLY applies to head injuries NOT to ischaemic injuries(lack of oxygen)

    And again this is another example of people who know nothing about the field trying to tell everyone what it actually entails.

    So, I am willing to teach anyone who has legitimate questions more about the subject of PSV - persistent vegetative state

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Then you can't compare the two cases. She had a ZERO PERCENT chance of waking up. ZERO, NADA, ZILCH. She was dead. She had died years before. All that was left was her body.
    He was suppose to be a vegetable just like her........They made a mistake on him maybe they made a mistake on her.....Think about it........
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He was suppose to be a vegetable just like her........They made a mistake on him maybe they made a mistake on her.....Think about it........
    I doubt it. She was pretty much famous with the controversy surrounding her. To think the doctors wouldn't be 100% sure is a little far-fetched. They weren't wrong.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He was suppose to be a vegetable just like her........They made a mistake on him maybe they made a mistake on her.....Think about it........
    Ahem.

    You can't be serious.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He was suppose to be a vegetable just like her........They made a mistake on him maybe they made a mistake on her.....Think about it........
    No they didn't.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    What's with all this talk about vegetables?
    . I love vegetable. They are good for you and chock full of vitamins.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They were both vegative....
    No they weren't, read your own damn article before you shoot your mouth off about it.

    "Five years ago doctors believed he slipped from a coma to a vegetative state, leaving his body functioning but without his personality or consciousness.

    The researchers, based at Cambridge and Liege universities, realized that diagnosis was wrong when the man responded to questions about his life as scientists monitored activity in his brain."

    Schaivo was effectively brain-dead, this man wasn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He was suppose to be a vegetable just like her........They made a mistake on him maybe they made a mistake on her.....Think about it........
    And your years of medical training tell you this? Oh wait...

    Unless you have some solid evidence that Schaivo was in the same position that the man in Belgium is in, stop wasting our time.
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