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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They were both vegative....How do you know she was worse off them him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

    'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



    'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
    Feb 4 2010



    London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

    The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

    Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident
    her brain was liquid, if i remember correctly. hardly the same.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    If I wish to die with dignity, the politicians damn well better leave me alone. It's disgusting that we are not given a choice, should the opportunity arise, in how we will die.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do any of my left wing friends remember the case a couple of years ago where they had the doctors pulled the feeding tubes of a young woman in vegetative forcing her to starve to death........Here is a similar case where a so called vegetive man is responding.....I hope you lefties sleep well tonight knowing you might have killed that woman that Jeb Bush and Conservatives wanted to keep feeding her........

    'Vegetative state' man responds to questions - CNN.com



    'Vegetative state' man responds to questionsBy Peter Wilkinson, CNN
    Feb 4 2010



    London, England (CNN) -- A man presumed to have been in a vegetative state for five years has communicated with the outside world for the first time since suffering severe head injuries in a car crash, researchers said Thursday.

    The finding by British and Belgian researchers has huge implications for the care and treatment of patients in a coma-like state. It comes two months after a Belgian car crash victim whose condition was misdiagnosed as a vegetative state for 23 years was revealed to have been conscious the whole time.

    Before the latest experiment the 29-year-old Belgian patient, who had his accident
    I don't really see what your point is with this thread. Not all cases where people are in a vegetative state are similar. This appears more like a typical partisan attack thread. Yes, Navy, we get it...you don't like people on the left.

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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If thinking that way makes you able to sleep better at night its ok........

    It wouldn't me.......
    If I am ever in a coma I want to be unplugged. I would have no feelings of guilt unplugging anyone else in a coma, unless they had requested otherwise. I would feel more guilt keeping someone alive when they wanted to die. If you think anyone who disagrees with your opinion is morally wrong and thus must feel guilt for their actions then I think you are an idiot.
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    Whats an ouija board, and it does not state what question was asked?
    I think it becomes more popular around Halloween...
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    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    her brain was liquid, if i remember correctly. hardly the same.
    Thy are both vegative........
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    If I am ever in a coma I want to be unplugged. I would have no feelings of guilt unplugging anyone else in a coma, unless they had requested otherwise. I would feel more guilt keeping someone alive when they wanted to die. If you think anyone who disagrees with your opinion is morally wrong and thus must feel guilt for their actions then I think you are an idiot.
    Like I said before you can say that now but if you were in the actual situation you might change your mind.......

    The will to live is very strong..........
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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    Oh yeah, keep me alive so that I can answer Yes or No questions while lying in my MRI machine.

    They'll give me one of those machines for free, right?





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    Re: 'Vegetative state' man responds to questions

    The Dalton Trumbo book "Johnny got His Gun" comes to mind here, 70 years later and the moral questions it brings up0 regarding being trapped within ones own mind are still unanswered, and will always be. I could think of no worse hell.

    Metallica sums up the book well in the song "One"


    Fed through the tube that sticks in me
    Just like a wartime novelty
    Tied to machines that make me be
    Cut this life off from me

    Hold my breath as I wish for death
    Oh please god, wake me

    Now the world is gone I'm just one
    Oh god, help me

    Hold my breath as I wish for death
    Oh please god, help me

    Darkness imprisoning me
    All that I see
    Absolute horror
    I cannot live
    I cannot die
    Trapped in myself
    Body my holding cell


    Absolute horror to be sure. even more horrific in a case where a person has his mental faculty. Since he is responding to questions I wonder if anyone had the presence of mind to ask if he wanted to live or not? An even more compelling question is if he stated a desire to die, if his pleas would go ignored as happened in "Johnny got His Gun".

    At what point does acting under the notion of what we consider "humane" devolve into unnecessary torture and become inhumane? There is no clear cut delineation here, if we value each and every life than we also have to value that each and every life has a time and a place to end, and just because we have technology and machinery that can at times extend life beyond the limits of what was historically impossible, that does not necessarily mean that we should take every possible step there is to prolong it through unnatural means.
    Last edited by marduc; 02-09-10 at 02:51 PM.
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