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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't believe you were in the Navy, you might feel different.....I don't think any guy aboard ship would want a gay guy sleeping inches away from him.....
    Oh, now I have to have been in the Navy to understand this, ehh? Look, I've been in plenty of "close" situations with guys that I found out afterwards were gay. So what? What do you think they're going to do? Rape me, or others? Good luck. Do you think homosexuals can't control their sexual drive, like pedophilias? They're no different than you or me. If you can control yourself from raping every woman who walks in front of you what makes you think they can't control themselves?

    Cut it out with the black example, it is old, stale and been disproven because blacks are a race of people and gays ae a class of people defined by their sexual preference...........
    Yeah, I know why you don't like that comparison. Because it cuts right to the soul of this issue. It shows a fear of these people because, just like with blacks and women, they are different than you. They're just the latest group for fear-based discrimination. Contrary to what you may think, blacks don't choose their race and homosexuals don't choose their sexual orientation.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Oh, now I have to have been in the Navy to understand this, ehh? Look, I've been in plenty of "close" situations with guys that I found out afterwards were gay. So what? What do you think they're going to do? Rape me, or others? Good luck. Do you think homosexuals can't control their sexual drive, like pedophilias? They're no different than you or me. If you can control yourself from raping every woman who walks in front of you what makes you think they can't control themselves?



    Yeah, I know why you don't like that comparison. Because it cuts right to the soul of this issue. It shows a fear of these people because, just like with blacks and women, they are different than you. They're just the latest group for fear-based discrimination. Contrary to what you may think, blacks don't choose their race and homosexuals don't choose their sexual orientation.

    homosexuals can't control their sexual drive, like pedophilias? They're no different than you or me. If you can control yourself from raping every woman who walks in front of you what makes you think they can't control themselves?
    No man can...Like Isaid many times you have to equate to you being on a ship with all women for long periods of time.....showering, undressing and sleeping inches away fom them....Its not a normal situation for a man to be in....Gays would succumb that is why over 14,000 have been discharged since 1993


    homosexuals can't control their sexual drive, like pedophilias? They're no different than you or me. If you can control yourself from raping every woman who walks in front of you what makes you think they can't control themselves?
    see previous para............
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No man can...Like Isaid many times you have to equate to you being on a ship with all women for long periods of time.....showering, undressing and sleeping inches away fom them....Its not a normal situation for a man to be in....Gays would succumb that is why over 14,000 have been discharged since 1993
    Over 14,000 have been discharged mostly because of outdated, caveman-like and fear based attitudes.

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No man can...Like Isaid many times you have to equate to you being on a ship with all women for long periods of time.....showering, undressing and sleeping inches away fom them....Its not a normal situation for a man to be in....Gays would succumb that is why over 14,000 have been discharged since 1993




    see previous para............
    Most men are able to control their sexual urges. I know you can't...but it doesn't mean that most of the rest of us can't.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No man can...Like Isaid many times you have to equate to you being on a ship with all women for long periods of time.....showering, undressing and sleeping inches away fom them....Its not a normal situation for a man to be in....Gays would succumb that is why over 14,000 have been discharged since 1993
    Okay, so this is an argument for why openly female women should not be allowed to serve?

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You need to listen to the link I posted............
    You tube video that was part of Navy Pride's link:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZCZ_7SyTFM"]YouTube- BBC Victor Fehrenbach Story[/ame]

    Thank you Navy Pride...for this very interesting link on this issue!
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    What do you think they're going to do? Rape me, or others? Good luck. Do you think homosexuals can't control their sexual drive, like pedophilias? They're no different than you or me. If you can control yourself from raping every woman who walks in front of you what makes you think they can't control themselves?



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    That's exactly it. Navy has already said that he can't control himself and that he would rape every woman who walked in front of him if placed on a ship in close quarters with them. He thinks that every other male would do the same.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You tube video that was part of Navy Pride's link:

    YouTube- BBC Victor Fehrenbach Story

    Thank you Navy Pride...for this very interesting link on this issue!
    I saw this guy on the tube the other night. 9 Air Medals. Lt Colonel. Tell me how discharging men like this makes us, or his unit, safer.

    Obama should stop this asap! Politics, as usual, has gotten in the way.

    I am impressed that Navy posted this. It certainly doesn't support his position.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Maybe some old school military men might jump ship because they fear the queer. But maybe it's time for those dinosaurs to retire anyway and live off their government checks for the rest of their lives. They did their time. They deserve it.

    It appears that today's soldiors, sailors, marines, are a lot more secure in their own sexuality than the old farts were. Maybe some of you guys are afraid that sleeping in the same BEQ with a gay person might turn you queer, but today's youth know better.

    Having been the "old school" sailor myself, actually serving back in the days of such homophobia, my rightwing friend Navy, is absolutely correct. Back then, being gay in the military, a gay fellow put his sanity, and sometimes his own life, into his own hands. Not a very wise thing to do.

    But I think our sailors today are much smarter than we were back in the day. I know because I instructed them. LOL! (They were MUCH brighter than the guys I went through boot camp with.) I would imagine, 25 years later, today's recruits are even smarter now than they were then.

    Obviously, the fear card is not working anymore. Reasonable people know better. It won't be long before the gays will have their own bars on base. Mark my word.

    If ANYTHING causes voluntary enlistment numbers to drop it will be the thought that the US has become a war-mongering nation determined to be at war somewhere, just about all the time. It won't be the queers that cause a possible draft situation. It will be the neo-cons.
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