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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    I carried a draft card in the 50's, but elected to enlist. I think a hitch in the military is a good thing, but it doesn't make automatically conservatives of those who do serve. I believe it is a good thing because it gives young men the discipline and respect for authority missing in so many of todays youth. IMO.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    actually that is false......I posted a poll taken of active duty military a couple of pages back .....
    No, you didn't. Forget being scientific, it wasn't a poll of active-duty military personnel.

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why...because you messed up when you posted the one that said exactly the opposite? Why are you so willing to embrace one...yet run from the other you mistakenly posted?
    Read it and weep DD..this is from the horses mouth.........


    Center for Military Readiness | Homosexuals in the Military

    Results of the survey did not make news until July 2009. Washington Times Base News Editor Grace Vuoto reported that the MOAA survey revealed strong support for current policy (16%) or an even stronger law excluding homosexuals from the military (52%). The same combined percentage, 68%, expressed the belief that repeal of the 1993 law would have a very negative effect (48%) or a moderately negative effect (20%) on troop morale and military readiness.

    Contrary to stereotypes about the views of younger men and women, the MOAA survey of 1,664 respondents included a significant number of younger, active-duty or drilling reserve/guard personnel who were largely tolerant of homosexuality in other situations.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Read it and weep DD..this is from the horses mouth.........


    Center for Military Readiness | Homosexuals in the Military

    Results of the survey did not make news until July 2009. Washington Times Base News Editor Grace Vuoto reported that the MOAA survey revealed strong support for current policy (16%) or an even stronger law excluding homosexuals from the military (52%). The same combined percentage, 68%, expressed the belief that repeal of the 1993 law would have a very negative effect (48%) or a moderately negative effect (20%) on troop morale and military readiness.

    Contrary to stereotypes about the views of younger men and women, the MOAA survey of 1,664 respondents included a significant number of younger, active-duty or drilling reserve/guard personnel who were largely tolerant of homosexuality in other situations.
    LOL...the "Center for Military Readiness" is a right-wing organization that actively is advocating keeping the ban in place. Hardly a scientific study.

    What about your other link Navy (You know...the one that you didn't read, but posted anyway that said exactly the opposite. You ever gonna explain why you are running away from what you obviously thought was worthy of posting?)
    You know.....this one:

    : http://www.sldn.org/pages/about-dadt

    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The military has discharged almost 800 mission-critical troops and at least 59 Arabic and nine Farsi linguists under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in the last five years.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    No, you didn't. Forget being scientific, it wasn't a poll of active-duty military personnel.
    Center for Military Readiness | Homosexuals in the Military

    Results of the survey did not make news until July 2009. Washington Times Base News Editor Grace Vuoto reported that the MOAA survey revealed strong support for current policy (16%) or an even stronger law excluding homosexuals from the military (52%). The same combined percentage, 68%, expressed the belief that repeal of the 1993 law would have a very negative effect (48%) or a moderately negative effect (20%) on troop morale and military readiness.

    Contrary to stereotypes about the views of younger men and women, the MOAA survey of 1,664 respondents included a significant number of younger, active-duty or drilling reserve/guard personnel who were largely tolerant of homosexuality in other situations.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...the "Center for Military Readiness" is a right-wing organization that actively is advocating keeping the ban in place. Hardly a scientific study.

    What about your other link Navy (You know...the one that you didn't read, but posted anyway that said exactly the opposite. You ever gonna explain why you are running away from what you obviously thought was worthy of posting?)
    It deals with readiness of the military..........If their right wing then your right wing....... God that is hard to say........You just can't call everything that disagrees with you right wing.........You lose the little creditability you have left when you do that........
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It deals with readiness of the military..........If their right wing then your right wing....... God that is hard to say........You just can't call everything that disagrees with you right wing.........You lose the little creditability you have left when you do that........
    Go to their website navy....just because you name yourself something...doesn't mean that it is correct...(Just look at "the moral majority"...which is neither moral or majority )

    Have you gone to their website or are you simply posting something without bothering to read it again?

    The make no qualms on their website that they are actively seeking to prevent the repeal. Not exactly an unbiased credible link.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Hmmm...yes indeed, it utterly refutes his point. Ive read the entire report and there's no mistaking, active military are supportive of repealing DADT.

    I didn't see him post the Zogby, I thought for sure he posted a different poll. Oh well.
    Don't give DD a pass Gina...You were right............I told you people DD is losing it........
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno J View Post
    I carried a draft card in the 50's, but elected to enlist. I think a hitch in the military is a good thing, but it doesn't make automatically conservatives of those who do serve. I believe it is a good thing because it gives young men the discipline and respect for authority missing in so many of todays youth. IMO.
    You are right and a bunch of your buddies in here should experience it..........
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Don't give DD a pass Gina...You were right............I told you people DD is losing it........
    Navy....the facts speak for themselves. The link is the same link that you posted and didn't read. Maybe you are embarassed....but you have been running from that link. Just admit you made a mistake....you didn't read it before posting it.
    But to lie your way out of it, isn't going to work, when people can see you link the link yourself.
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