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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yeah, perhaps alot of gay-haters will have to do that.
    Calling someone a gay hater is calling them a name........
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So do you oppose women in serving?



    Your poll was worthless. It was not scientific. Nor are your conversations with people.
    I opposed women serving on Navy Combatents....I don't oppose women serving.......

    Yeah because it proved you wrong.....If it had been in your favor you would be singing a different tune.......
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I opposed women serving on Navy Combatents....I don't oppose women serving.......

    Yeah because it proved you wrong.....If it had been in your favor you would be singing a different tune.......
    Kinda like you ignoring the poll that you posted a week ago (but hadn't read) that you've been running from since?
    Here is your link again: http://www.sldn.org/pages/about-dadt

    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The military has discharged almost 800 mission-critical troops and at least 59 Arabic and nine Farsi linguists under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in the last five years.

    Here is another link from that same source of yours Navy:

    Reserve Officers Association Changes Position on Gays in Military | Latest News | Servicemembers Legal Defense Network

    The Reserve Officers Association, the largest organization of retired U.S. military reserve officers in the nation, voted yesterday to end its decades long position of excluding gays and lesbians from the U.S. military.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They have also lowered the standards to meet their requirement to.......Lower GCTs and physical standards...not good, especially in the army.........

    actually that is false......I posted a poll taken of active duty military a couple of pages back ....you should read it.........it was strongly against lifting DADT and that included the younger people to......I talk to military members all the time so I knew that already.....you should go back and check it out.......
    They lowered standards during the Bush administration because the military couldn't come close to fulfilling enlistment quotas, hence the large enlistment bonuses, which have now been withdrawn.

    Which poll? I saw you post one wherein veterans responded. The only active duty poll I've seen here is that done by Zogby in 2006. If I missed it, could you please reply with the post number?

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    They lowered standards during the Bush administration because the military couldn't come close to fulfilling enlistment quotas, hence the large enlistment bonuses, which have now been withdrawn.

    Which poll? I saw you post one wherein veterans responded. The only active duty poll I've seen here is that done by Zogby in 2006. If I missed it, could you please reply with the post number?
    Navy Posted the Zogby poll and claimed that it supported his view that the military opposes ending the ban (problem is....the poll says exactly the opposite). He's been running away from it ever since.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Navy Posted the Zogby poll and claimed that it supported his view that the military opposes ending the ban (problem is....the poll says exactly the opposite). He's been running away from it ever since.

    Hmmm...yes indeed, it utterly refutes his point. Ive read the entire report and there's no mistaking, active military are supportive of repealing DADT.

    I didn't see him post the Zogby, I thought for sure he posted a different poll. Oh well.

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Hmmm...yes indeed, it utterly refutes his point. Ive read the entire report and there's no mistaking, active military are supportive of repealing DADT.

    I didn't see him post the Zogby, I thought for sure he posted a different poll. Oh well.
    No....that was the one he posted. The link above that I posted was copied directly from his original post.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Calling someone a gay hater is calling them a name........
    Not if they hate gays. It's just an observation. Someone who hates gays is a gay-hater. Just like calling you a sailor isn't calling you a name. Or calling someone a broccoli-hater if they hate broccoli.
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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Kinda like you ignoring the poll that you posted a week ago (but hadn't read) that you've been running from since?
    Here is your link again: Servicemembers Legal Defense Network

    Military Attitudes
    73 percent of military personnel are comfortable with lesbians and gays (Zogby International, 2006).
    The younger generations, those who fight America's 21st century wars, largely don't care about whether someone is gay or not-and they do not link job performance with sexual orientation.
    One in four U.S. troops who served in Afghanistan or Iraq knows a member of their unit who is gay (Zogby, 2006).
    The Public Overwhelmingly Supports Lifting the Ban
    Majorities of weekly churchgoers (60 percent), conservatives (58 percent), and Republicans (58 percent) now favor repeal (Gallup, 2009).
    Seventy-five percent of Americans support gays serving openly - up from just 44 percent in 1993 (ABC News/Washington Post, 2008).
    Ban Hurts Military Readiness
    The U.S. must recruit and retain the greatest number of the best and brightest-especially during two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    The military has discharged almost 800 mission-critical troops and at least 59 Arabic and nine Farsi linguists under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in the last five years.

    Here is another link from that same source of yours Navy:

    Reserve Officers Association Changes Position on Gays in Military | Latest News | Servicemembers Legal Defense Network

    The Reserve Officers Association, the largest organization of retired U.S. military reserve officers in the nation, voted yesterday to end its decades long position of excluding gays and lesbians from the U.S. military.
    I already posted a poll from the active duty members themselves and they are totally against i, even the young guys, which I already knew because I talk to them all the time.........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' to trigger draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I already posted a poll from the active duty members themselves and they are totally against i, even the young guys, which I already knew because I talk to them all the time.........
    Why...because you messed up when you posted the one that said exactly the opposite? Why are you so willing to embrace one...yet run from the other you mistakenly posted?
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