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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many - The Denver Post

    Some rather extreme cost cutting

    Quite suprised at the police helicopters being cut, and the street light being reduced as much as they are. Also quite suprised at the low pay the mayor and council members recieve
    Colorado Springs is going to become a ghetto military town.

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Amazing.

    Look at all the people whining when government does the sensible thing and stops spending money it doesn't have.

    They just don't get it, do they? The city should raise the taxes on everyone, so they'll move out. The city should tax the businesses, so they'll fail. The city should borrow money and later on borrow more money to pay back the first loan.

    But the city should NEVER cut a dime in spending.

    The real trick, though, is that we're not getting the whole story. What special projects is that city doing that benefits only the well connected are still in effect? How's their Free Needles For Stupid Addicts Plan going (if they have one)?

    I'm betting that the city has tons of savings available in these bull**** projects, but they want to con the taxpayer into accepting the con that "essential" services are going to fail if they don't raise taxes.

    California has been doing just that for years, now, and is in the process of doing it again.

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    awesome article. A Repubs dream come true. Why not just eliminate the Police and Fire Department all together? Hey its not my fault or problem if you get robbed or if your home burns down thats what certain insurance is for..If everyone bought a gun and a pit bull things would be much better..Lights?? Who needs to walk down the roads at night? you should be home. Autos have headlights to help you see where you are driving. Damn if you can't see well enough in the dark you shouldn't be walking around then...

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Amazing.

    Look at all the people whining when government does the sensible thing and stops spending money it doesn't have.

    They just don't get it, do they? The city should raise the taxes on everyone, so they'll move out. The city should tax the businesses, so they'll fail. The city should borrow money and later on borrow more money to pay back the first loan.

    But the city should NEVER cut a dime in spending.

    The real trick, though, is that we're not getting the whole story. What special projects is that city doing that benefits only the well connected are still in effect? How's their Free Needles For Stupid Addicts Plan going (if they have one)?

    I'm betting that the city has tons of savings available in these bull**** projects, but they want to con the taxpayer into accepting the con that "essential" services are going to fail if they don't raise taxes.

    California has been doing just that for years, now, and is in the process of doing it again.
    What's interesting to me about this is that Colorado Springs is about as libertarian a town as exists in the US. If they are having trouble paying the bills and are cutting in ways that people find offensive, this speaks to how well the libertarian philosophy of governing works.

    Here's the town's own website: City of Colorado Springs - HOME

    Notice that the first thing you see is a rolling set of justifications for city taxes: "you may not have realized this, but the city pays for your police protection....parks....roads...."

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Don't most cities and states have laws about expenses not outweighing revenues? I can't even imagine if my city and state didn't have those laws.
    Last edited by sazerac; 02-04-10 at 08:38 PM.

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Don't most cities and states have laws about expenses not outweighing revenues? I can't even imagine if my city and state didn't have those laws.
    Cities like ColoSprings can't run at a deficit because they don't have the authority to borrow money. Some states can, but its rare for cities other than bond issues for narrowly tailored purposes like buildings or roads.
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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I strongly suspect that this is a ploy to raise taxes. You'll note, they haven't cut the lights at city hall yet. These cuts are designed to be felt by the populace and soften them up for the inevitable tax increase.

    You want to piss off your constituents? Take away their garbage services.

    For the record, our garbage is privately contracted...wonder why Colorado Springs hasn't allowed a private company like Waste Management to bid for the contract if they can't deliver the services...

    Oh yeah...because garbage services are a tool to force the hand of the populace.
    Where I live you can pay a monthly fee for garbage, by a private contracting company, or you can haul your own to the transfer station.

    I choose to haul my own. It's really much simpler, you don't have to remember to put it out on the right day.

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    What's interesting to me about this is that Colorado Springs is about as libertarian a town as exists in the US. If they are having trouble paying the bills and are cutting in ways that people find offensive, this speaks to how well the libertarian philosophy of governing works.

    Here's the town's own website: City of Colorado Springs - HOME

    Notice that the first thing you see is a rolling set of justifications for city taxes: "you may not have realized this, but the city pays for your police protection....parks....roads...."
    i thought colorado springs was a hotbed of conservative Christiandom - the evangelical vatican:
    Day eight: Sunday morning in the 'evangelical Vatican' | World news | guardian.co.uk
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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i thought colorado springs was a hotbed of conservative Christiandom - the evangelical vatican:
    Day eight: Sunday morning in the 'evangelical Vatican' | World news | guardian.co.uk
    It is, but for the sake of government spending that's little different from libertarianism.

    Colorado Springs is dominated by evangelicals and the military (five military installations nearby, including the Air Force Academy). Not exactly a bunch of liberals. If you want that, move down the road a bit to Boulder. Of liberals, they have more than their share.

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    Re: Colorado Springs cuts into services considered basic by many

    They don't have the money, they don't have it. I think people would be more open to cuts than this, given the ever constant bitching about over spending by government entities. It's going to get worse before it gets better.. pity the fool that thought the economy hasn't yet bottomed out.. we're nowhere near bottom yet.

    Let's see if after these cuts people will stand by their 'cut spending' mantra when asked at the polls if they'd support a raise in sales tax, property tax or any other taxation in order to help "fund" these things that have been taken away and vote NO. People tend to support something only when it doesn't inconvenience them, so we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Colorado Springs is going to become a ghetto military town.
    What exactly, is a "ghetto military town"?
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