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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea things were "pretty good".. just as it is "pretty warm" when you piss in your pants.

    The amount of denial here by you Navy and a few others is astounding. Bush DOUBLED the national debt in his 8 years for god sake. He use debt spending policies that were doomed to fail and any economist that is not blinded by partisan right wing politics knows this. You do not freaking increase the debt and deficit during boom years.. that is when you are suppose to bring them down. But hey, live in lala land if you want.

    Face it, if McCain was in power, he would have cut taxes no doubt, for the rich, which would not have done a damn for the economy, and the deficit most likely would be as big if not bigger. Those are the realities of deficit spending policies of the GOP... it did not work under Reagan and it did not work under Bush. The fiscal conservative died out before Reagan and out of the ashes the big spending tax cutting push the problem to our children Conservative was born.
    And Obama has increased the debt 10 fold more then all the presidents combined in the history of our country and he has done this in 1 shsort year.......
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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Which tax raise are you referring to?
    The one I got on January 1 where my mitiary pension went down $50. dollars a month and all my retired shipmates got the same raise in taxes..........
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    So today we learn that McCain/Republicans would've spent a lot of money too, but not as much money as Obama.

    This is news?

    Yes, the Republicans have historically this past decade been ****ty with spending.

    Obama is even worse.

    Thank you for highlighting what a horrible choice we had last election.

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    THe government raises taxes.......that is huge why the economy is a disaster..
    Read what I said again, slower this time.

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    So you disagree that many of the problems Obama is facing he inherited from bush?
    Do you disagree that many of the issues that Obama is dealing with have either became worse based on the things he's done, or in the end is simply following the Bush model and plan for how to fix them?

    (I figure I'll just use what is apparently now The Makeout Hobo's standard method of posting, which is to not actually answer anything or address anything but just ask questions.)

    Do you disagree that in part much of the spending under Bush prior to 2006 was for military expenditures that came about because of his stance on the War on Terror which occured due to 9/11 which was in part inherited by extremely flawed policies and decisions of the prior administration?

    (lets see just how far we can use the "lets not answer anything and ask questions and blame the one before" to go back in time. Here, you get to now not bother to answer anything and tie it Bush I. I wonder how far back we'll get with the blame game)

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So today we learn that McCain/Republicans would've spent a lot of money too, but not as much money as Obama.
    No, more like the economy was going to suck either way and deficit spending was going to be inevitable.

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The one I got on January 1 where my mitiary pension went down $50. dollars a month and all my retired shipmates got the same raise in taxes..........
    Have they raised your tax on your military pension or have they simply reduced the amount of pension you get?

    While having the same affect, one would not be a "tax". Much the same way Obama shouldn't refer to a tax credit as a "tax cut"

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And Obama has increased the debt 10 fold more then all the presidents combined in the history of our country and he has done this in 1 shsort year.......
    10 fold in one year? Complete bull****.

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, more like the economy was going to suck either way and deficit spending was going to be inevitable.
    Correct, however the article...which is not surprisingly coming from the HuffPo...is trying to give the implication that the deficit spending would be the same under McCain as it would Obama.

    That's not what Obama's people said at all.

    They said it'd still likely end up being a record deficit compared to the past, but are also saying that they wouldn't be doing the same amount of spending that Obama did. This leads one to reasonably conclude that while they'd run a record deficit it'd be a lower one than Obama.

    Thus going back to my previous statement. Wonderful, you're telling us McCain would spend a lot, just not as much as Obama. whoop ti do. Anyone with a bit of political know how should've been able to figure that out during the election by looking at McCain's record of "bipartisanship/capitulation" and republicans control the past decade, along with what Obama did in his short time in congress mixed with his views.

    Basically did you want a kick in the crotch, or a punch in the face followed by a kick in the crotch.

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    Re: McCain advisor - We would have deficits too

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Correct, however the article...which is not surprisingly coming from the HuffPo...is trying to give the implication that the deficit spending would be the same under McCain as it would Obama.

    That's not what Obama's people said at all.

    They said it'd still likely end up being a record deficit compared to the past, but are also saying that they wouldn't be doing the same amount of spending that Obama did. This leads one to reasonably conclude that while they'd run a record deficit it'd be a lower one than Obama.
    So if McCain had been elected and ran record deficits, we could say "wow, those are the largest deficits in the history of the U.S., but at least they are a little smaller than the ones Obama would have given us."

    Great.

    Thus going back to my previous statement. Wonderful, you're telling us McCain would spend a lot, just not as much as Obama. whoop ti do. Anyone with a bit of political know how should've been able to figure that out during the election by looking at McCain's record of "bipartisanship/capitulation" and republicans control the past decade, along with what Obama did in his short time in congress mixed with his views.

    Basically did you want a kick in the crotch, or a punch in the face followed by a kick in the crotch.
    No, the difference is a punch in the face and a hard kick in the crotch or a punch in the face and a slightly less hard kick in the crotch. And maybe that hard kick will end with a kiss, if Keynes was right.

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