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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    There's a precedent against obscenity?
    Absolutely. Most of the cases date from the early to mid 1900's. I forget the case, as it's been a while since I had to learn this stuff, but there was a case around, I believe the 1930's that set the parameters of protection for speech. What the SCOTUS basically stated was that there are three spheres of protection, political speech(greatest sphere, completely protected), Conversational(?, basically social speech), which has a great sphere of protection, but not as much so as political, and obscenity(minimal protection). The Supreme court applied a test to protection, if something has serious literary, political, or artistic merit then it is certainly protected.
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Well, tell me I'm completely wrong, but aren't they just an unnatural extension of far-right attitudes? I'm sure I've heard Falwell's crowd come out with some stuff that's not a million miles away from what Phelp's muppets mouth.
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, tell me I'm completely wrong, but aren't they just an unnatural extension of far-right attitudes? I'm sure I've heard Falwell's crowd come out with some stuff that's not a million miles away from what Phelp's muppets mouth.
    You're wrong. Fallwell wasn't a model citizen, but he was no where near the level of Phelps.
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Rightwingers are never going to accept soldiers being insulted at their gravesides by the Phelps famiy.

    They are hated by everyone equally.

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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Rightwingers are never going to accept soldiers being insulted at their gravesides by the Phelps famiy.

    They are hated by everyone equally.
    Absolutely right. Oh, and WHO DAT!
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    I am intrigued, how come these WUMs manage to picket military funerals and never get attacked? Freedom of speech is a great thing and I applaud those who defend it, but at a funeral? I think of myself as basically a pacifist, but one that has never really been put to the test. Were it the funeral of my nephew or brother, I'm really not sure how I'd restrain myself.
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't know, I've met people like that before, I think these are true believers and not necessarily attention seekers.
    Oh they are true belivers. My Grandad was a true believer too.
    He believed he was Napolean.

    But he wasn't of course.




    Napolean was shorter.

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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I am intrigued, how come these WUMs manage to picket military funerals and never get attacked? Freedom of speech is a great thing and I applaud those who defend it, but at a funeral? I think of myself as basically a pacifist, but one that has never really been put to the test. Were it the funeral of my nephew or brother, I'm really not sure how I'd restrain myself.
    That is what has always mystified me. I know in my own family there are more than a couple who would have no problem with police present or not going after scum like this.
    I would love to see a relative just go ballistic on these botton dwellers.

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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    That is what has always mystified me. I know in my own family there are more than a couple who would have no problem with police present or not going after scum like this.
    I would love to see a relative just go ballistic on these botton dwellers.
    The thought of criminal charges, and being sued gives enough people pause I guess.
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    Re: Protesting the Westboro Baptist Church in San Francisco

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentM View Post
    The thought of criminal charges, and being sued gives enough people pause I guess.
    Be nice if the police decided to look the other way in that particular incidence. The Phelps cult needs a good beating.
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