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    Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Filed under the category "Your hypocritical congresscritters in action":

    The price of admission? $5,000 for an individual, $15,000 for a representative of a political action committee, and $30,400 -- the maximum allowable donation -- for the privilege of being a co-host.
    But aren't the Democrats the ones who are criticizing the Republicans for this kind of stuff? Oh yea, that's right. Do as I say, not as I do.

    Sorry, Dems, but your party really sucks. If you really believed that Republican fund raising was all that evil, you wouldn't be doing the same thing now, would you?

    Goes to show you that, when a politician is bought, he or she STAYS bought.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Another good reason to throw private money out of politics entirely. If we have full public financing than there is no incentive for crap like this to happen for any party.

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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Filed under the category "Your hypocritical congresscritters in action":



    But aren't the Democrats the ones who are criticizing the Republicans for this kind of stuff? Oh yea, that's right. Do as I say, not as I do.

    Sorry, Dems, but your party really sucks. If you really believed that Republican fund raising was all that evil, you wouldn't be doing the same thing now, would you?

    Goes to show you that, when a politician is bought, he or she STAYS bought.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Another good reason to throw private money out of politics entirely. If we have full public financing than there is no incentive for crap like this to happen for any party.
    How would that work? Are you going to ban all political candidates from accepting any donations whatsoever? How do you decide which candidates get public financing? Where are you going to get the money to provide this public financing? How are you going to prevent donors from simply steering their money to groups organized to support particular candidates or causes?

    Campaign finance is not well suited to regulation by slogan.
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How would that work? Are you going to ban all political candidates from accepting any donations whatsoever? How do you decide which candidates get public financing? Where are you going to get the money to provide this public financing? How are you going to prevent donors from simply steering their money to groups organized to support particular candidates or causes?

    Campaign finance is not well suited to regulation by slogan.
    The government has regulations for those running for office. Each party member running for office gets xxxx dollars on which to campaign. This is a good idea.

    No outside donations should be allowed. All finances need to be open to the public. If so much as a cup of water is donated to a candidate; that candidate is disqualified from the race and banned from political office for life.

    In addition, the candidate and the individual who made the donation both serve 25 years in prison with no parole or pardon (this needs to be pardon-proof to keep partisan hackery in check).



    This will keep businesses and SIGs from buying off politicians.

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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Campaign finance is not well suited to regulation by slogan.
    Exactly right. Campaign finance is also not well suited to public funding - all we got out of that was the McCain-Feingold Incumbent Protection Act and we always get immense corruption in the disbursement of public funds.

    The only approach that shows any promise is prompt and public disclosure of all campaign and issue funding.
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The government has regulations for those running for office. Each party member running for office gets xxxx dollars on which to campaign. This is a good idea.

    No outside donations should be allowed. All finances need to be open to the public. If so much as a cup of water is donated to a candidate; that candidate is disqualified from the race and banned from political office for life.

    In addition, the candidate and the individual who made the donation both serve 25 years in prison with no parole or pardon (this needs to be pardon-proof to keep partisan hackery in check).

    This will keep businesses and SIGs from buying off politicians.
    So only party members get the public financing? Sounds like you want to protect the Democrats and Republican establishment at the expense of insurgent candidates, third parties, and independents.

    No outside donations are allowed? What about donations to advocacy groups that are separate from the campaign? They're not donating to the candidate directly, so it looks like it would be a-okay in your book, right?
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    … The only approach that shows any promise is prompt and public disclosure of all campaign and issue funding.
    It was all disclosed.

    So, just to be clear, no complaints from the right about Speaker Pelosi's fundraiser.

    And, to be consistent, for all those following the California court proceedings, all those who contributed to the Prop 8 campaign banning Gay marriage should now be publicly exposed.

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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    It was all disclosed.

    So, just to be clear, no complaints from the right about Speaker Pelosi's fundraiser.
    People are free to criticize on the grounds that it demonstrates hypocrisy or deference to special interests, but as a matter of law, it's perfectly okay.

    And, to be consistent, for all those following the California court proceedings, all those who contributed to the Prop 8 campaign banning Gay marriage should now be publicly exposed.
    I see a difference between funds being donated directly to the coffer of a politician and funds being donated to a private group organized to advocate on behalf of a policy proposal.
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    Re: Lobbyist charges $30,400 to ‘raise a glass’ with Pelosi

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Are you going to ban all political candidates from accepting any donations whatsoever?
    I think the best thing would be to limit it at around $200 or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How do you decide which candidates get public financing?
    If the candidate's party or the candidate wins an election, they will get public financing or if the candidate can collect the signatures of somewhere around 2 to 3% of the registered voting population's signatures in a petition than they will get it too. This will be a boon for smaller parties and put them on a more equal playing field.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Where are you going to get the money to provide this public financing?
    Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How are you going to prevent donors from simply steering their money to groups organized to support particular candidates or causes?.
    Unfortunately the supreme court threw a wrench in this one and it perverts free speech to be tainted with money, so I haven't come up with a good answer yet.

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