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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Compare those numbers to Hastert and get back to me. Oh, wait:



    snopes.com: Nancy Pelosi's Jet



    You think that the Speaker of the House, someone who is 3rd in line for the presidency, should be flying coach on commercial airlines?

    I don't mind a bit of populism now and then, but this is going way too far.

    What do you think important political officials do on flights? Watch movies? Read skymall? No, they handle ****. They discuss policy, make phone calls, etc. - all things that could not be done if they were flying commercial.

    While it's certainly hypocritical for them to call out CEOs while they're doing the same thing, the solution is not to force them both to fly coach - it's to let them both do what they need to do.
    I wasn't talking about her USING military planes to fly around, it's the added "fluff" that is the issue here. Not the fact she used Military planes to get from point A to point B.


    Also your link is for 2009. It's 2010. Care to provide a more recent comparison or would that perhaps be to... "partisan" a task for you?
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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    .... Pelosi pays taxes too. So does every member of congress. You act like IRS agents came over to your house, took 50$ out of your pocket and paid for the drinks.
    Whatever, Hat. I'm just a regular guy at the end of the day. I'm not the type of person who feels offended when someone offers me a beer rather than a Grey Goose vodka. If that's the type of people our representatives are then maybe that's the problem. They're supposed to be servants of the people. Not glitzy aristocrats who jet-set here and there with their family in tow. Hell, my family hasn't been on a vacation in a LONG time. But Pelosi is powerful and has access to tax dollars, so it's okay if she and her family fly to exotic locales with delicious food and high-end drinks on the tax payer's dime...

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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Whatever, Hat. I'm just a regular guy at the end of the day. I'm not the type of person who feels offended when someone offers me a beer rather than a Grey Goose vodka. If that's the type of people our representatives are then maybe that's the problem. They're supposed to be servants of the people. Not glitzy aristocrats who jet-set here and there with their family in tow. Hell, my family hasn't been on a vacation in a LONG time. But Pelosi is powerful and has access to tax dollars, so it's okay if she and her family fly to exotic locales with delicious food and high-end drinks on the tax payer's dime...
    Your idealism is commendable but it is just that. Idealism. People in high office get the luxury of having better things. It's been like that since Washington.
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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your idealism is commendable but it is just that. Idealism. People in high office get the luxury of having better things. It's been like that since Washington.
    Yea, except George Washington was a real American patriot who made real sacrifices on behalf of his country; the cold at Valley Forge didn't discriminate between the officers and the enlisted. No American would have begrudged him his high status because he earned it by the sweat of his own brow and the brilliance of his own intellect.

    Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, is just a San Fran elitist who jet-sets with her family to exotic locales, sipping high-balls and eating steak, all on the tax-payers' dime. Somehow, I don't see Jefferson or Washington as equivalent to this.

    P.S. - You're a history buff. You know what the White House looked like when John Adams moved in with his wife?

    ...Pelosi would've asked to be put up in the Hyatt Regency...

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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I find it frustrating that common folk are expected to provide the British Commerce Secretary with a high-end drink selection before he'll deign to discuss business with our representative. I mean, I'd have no problem if she offered me a beer. Maybe that's the problem...

    I don't know. I just feel utterly detached from these people.
    That's alright.... they feel the same about you.
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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    .... Pelosi pays taxes too. So does every member of congress. You act like IRS agents came over to your house, took 50$ out of your pocket and paid for the drinks.

    Well duh..... they basically did just that.
    There is no such thing as a ďNatural Born Dual-Citizenď.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, except George Washington was a real American patriot who made real sacrifices on behalf of his country; the cold at Valley Forge didn't discriminate between the officers and the enlisted.
    While the cold didn't discriminate between officers and the enlisted men, their housing and meals most certainly did.

    Valley Forge FAQs

    Q.Were the quarters and food the same for Generals and Privates?

    A.The quarters and provisions for officers and privates were usually different. Officers would usually be quartered in better equipped facilities. Sometimes these differences could amount to the number of men quartered there. The huts at Valley Forge held up to 12 men. This would have been different for those at a higher rank ó there would be fewer men and more space for officers. The Commander in Chief and his generals were housed in actual homes. These were the houses of various inhabitants of the area: warmer, certainly "homier" and with the "modern amenities" of the day. Food, or rations, would have been similar. Very often the army would all be eating the same thing, however your rank decided how many rations you received. A soldier was entitled to a single ration (equalling three meals). Officers were authorized extra.
    Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, is just a San Fran elitist who jet-sets with her family to exotic locales, sipping high-balls and eating steak, all on the tax-payers' dime. Somehow, I don't see Jefferson or Washington as equivalent to this.
    I don't imagine Washington was eating steak while his men ate gruel, but there is no question that he took the best housing and had more (and sometimes better) things to eat than his troops. As is proper and expected.

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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    While the cold didn't discriminate between officers and the enlisted men, their housing and meals most certainly did.





    I don't imagine Washington was eating steak while his men ate gruel, but there is no question that he took the best housing and had more (and sometimes better) things to eat than his troops. As is proper and expected.
    That's the way it's always been in the military. I was on the bad end of that deal more times than I care to remember, but it's still a far cry from the disparity we see with Pelosi's jet-setting and luxury.

    She's an ivory-tower aristocrat. No getting past it...

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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what's the issue here? that taxpayers pay? haven't we always, regardless of who the speaker was?
    I'd say that our Senators and Representatives ought to fly commercial just like the rest of the unwashed.
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    Re: House Speakerís Military Travel Cost the United States Air Force $2,100,744.59 ov

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Penguin View Post
    I'd say that our Senators and Representatives ought to fly commercial just like the rest of the unwashed.
    In this day and age do you realize the security problems that would cause?

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