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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    That's because you are. Bankrolling and unlimited spending, even if not direct ARE THE SAME THING. At this point a politician doesn't have to even run ads, all they have to spend money on is making appearances at various events.
    Accept its not UNLIMITED SPENDING, not when it comes to elections.

    "Bankrolling" or "Unlimited Spending" would mean that the politician wouldn't even need to spend money on appearances, staff, events, travel, etc. THAT would be blanket "Unlimited spending". THAT would be "Bank rolling" by definition.

    Being able to spend money on Political Ad's is NOT bankrolling an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Indeed, how dare you get upset when Mr. V broadly insults an entire political spectrum of which you belong to. He's supposed to be able to widely insult entire swatches of the population and the ones he doesn't REALLY mean to insult are supposed to just know it. JEEZ
    Being totally fair, literally the entire left half of the building gave a standing ovation when Obama made those comments last night.

    And polling about the speech showed that liberals widely thought it was excellent.

    Plus I only heard one liberal commentator (Juan Williams) actually say he thought it was inappropriate on television.

    Maybe a few internet people said otherwise, but it's an easy observation to make that the left supported Obama's actions and think that Alito was actually the one who was out of place.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Indeed, how dare you get upset when Mr. V broadly insults an entire political spectrum of which you belong to. He's supposed to be able to widely insult entire swatches of the population and the ones he doesn't REALLY mean to insult are supposed to just know it. JEEZ
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Accept its not UNLIMITED SPENDING, not when it comes to elections.

    "Bankrolling" or "Unlimited Spending" would mean that the politician wouldn't even need to spend money on appearances, staff, events, travel, etc. THAT would be blanket "Unlimited spending". THAT would be "Bank rolling" by definition.

    Being able to spend money on Political Ad's is NOT bankrolling an election.
    And thats why I think you are nitpicking, making appearances is a minor expense, to the point where its not significant.

    Either way, I think we are simply going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I think I am right, you think you are right, so be it.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    Being totally fair, literally the entire left half of the building gave a standing ovation when Obama made those comments last night.

    And polling about the speech showed that liberals widely thought it was excellent.

    Plus I only heard one liberal commentator (Juan Williams) actually say he thought it was inappropriate on television.

    Maybe a few internet people said otherwise, but it's an easy observation to make that the left supported Obama's actions and think that Alito was actually the one who was out of place.
    I think you're completely and utterly deluding yourself to believe that if the situation was flip flopped and it was a Republican up there and the Surpreme Cout just over turned, say...the recent ruling that over turned DC's gun laws....that republicans wouldn't stand up to a man and cheer as well.

    Its kind of the protocol in the state of the union. What a lot of people aren't getting, or are just willfully being ignorant of it this time because it suits thier purposes, the "one side claps, other side doesn't clap" thing is pretty much tradition. Its essentially the ettiquite for this thing. The Democrats cheering doesn't make any indication about the views of the left any more than the republicans not cheering tax cuts being any indication of the views of the right. Its more about the ceremonial tradition of the SOTU than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think you're completely and utterly deluding yourself to believe that if the situation was flip flopped and it was a Republican up there and the Surpreme Cout just over turned, say...the recent ruling that over turned DC's gun laws....that republicans wouldn't stand up to a man and cheer as well.

    Its kind of the protocol in the state of the union. What a lot of people aren't getting, or are just willfully being ignorant of it this time because it suits thier purposes, the "one side claps, other side doesn't clap" thing is pretty much tradition. Its essentially the ettiquite for this thing. The Democrats cheering doesn't make any indication about the views of the left any more than the republicans not cheering tax cuts being any indication of the views of the right. Its more about the ceremonial tradition of the SOTU than anything.
    There were a handful of times last night that Obama got applause from Republicans and not Democrats- during the part of the speech about free trade for example. There is absolutely no obligation by anyone to give a standing ovation to every talking point, particularly not as enthusiastically as they did to his supreme court comments.

    I don't feel the need to discuss hypothetically what the reaction would be if a Republican did the same thing, because we just had a Republican president for 8 years and he never did, and never would (even though he disagreed with some decisions the court made), because clearly he understood that it was inappropriate.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    Obama yacks about bipartisanship and then hurls a beanball at the Supreme Court. He speaks out of every side of every orifice this twit.

    But... if you want the Democrats to go asunder like a balsa wood boat in a hurricane... he's doing it... for this speech, except for its incessantly nagging tone, will be forgotten, as his hundred plus other appearances in the past year.

    The speech will be remembered... for its grating nature.

    Can't wait for November; he just screwed a whole lot of Democrats.
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    alito must be a real asshole. so well mannered.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    The President is not some type of Czar or King, as is evident by our country's defined lack of organized broohah over the presidency.
    what does that mean?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    There were a handful of times last night that Obama got applause from Republicans and not Democrats- during the part of the speech about free trade for example. There is absolutely no obligation by anyone to give a standing ovation to every talking point, particularly not as enthusiastically as they did to his supreme court comments.
    Again, that's generally the tradition. The President tends to give a few minor things that will make the other side clap and his side be quiet. This is not uncommon. Go back and watch old state of the unions. I garauntee you you'll find things that were questionable by a Republican president that the Republicans all erupted for. Its just how these things go. Your pathetic attempt to turn it into some kind of great political sign is as dishonest and disgusting as Disneydudes attempt to do so earlier in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    That was poor form and disrespectful. Might as well have thrown his shoe at them to really send the message. They are the final word on the Constitution and the case they ruled on had nothing to do with foreign corporations. It wasn't true. Congress should make legislation banning that and it didn't require a shot at the Supreme Court to make the point.
    Because it's only "judicial activism" when they do sumpin' you don't like eh?
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