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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Just making the comparison. Alito didn't disrupt anything, except maybe aps's day.
    Yeah, I said that earlier. I did not see anything he did during the speech that I can find room to complain about.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Just making the comparison. Alito didn't disrupt anything, except maybe aps's day.
    No. He didn't disrupt anything.

    Gloves come off after Obama rips Supreme Court ruling - CNN.com

    Justice openly disagrees with Obama in speech - White House- msnbc.com

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    I love what this guy said:

    It could be argued that a president should not publicly challenge the legitimacy of a Supreme Court decision, especially with the justices sitting in the audience. A president is a politician with opinions about political matters, but he generally should foster respect for court decisions.

    But it can equally be argued that Justice Alito needs to acquire some adult impulse control. Is Justice Alito so personally insecure that he couldn't just let the court's written opinion stand for itself? The court has its own forum for presenting opinions, and it's not at the State of the Union address.

    Justice Alito needs better impulse control | Midwest Voices
    What's interesting is that Boehner and Cantor behaved similarly and I haven't seen much, if any, footage about that. Oh, that's right, they're politicians. Supreme Court Justices are NOT.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    What's new here? What did he disrupt? If it hadn't been caught on camera, would anyone know it happened, including anyone sitting behind or in front of him (and most people to either side, for that matter)? No. I'd hardly call that a "disruption."

    Why this is such a big deal to you is beyond me.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    No. He didn't disrupt anything.

    Gloves come off after Obama rips Supreme Court ruling - CNN.com

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    What's interesting is that Boehner and Cantor behaved similarly and I haven't seen much, if any, footage about that. Oh, that's right, they're politicians. Supreme Court Justices are NOT.
    Well let's look at this "disruption" again:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzP_s-Ynr0M&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Justice Alito Says "Not True" During State Of The Union[/ame]

    MY GOD what an emotional disruption, why it brought the whole speech to a grinding halt, errrr oh yeah no it did not. Was not even known about until an editor went back through the speech video and caught the massive and loud "disruption" afterward. Links to pundits calling what we see above an emotional outburst/disruption does not negate what actually occurred. Now they are filling the 24/7 news cycle with fodder and writing blogs, but what can be your possible motivation for acting so at odds with reality here? Beyond partisan ideology?
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    Sotomayor didn't even notice. Yeah, break out the tazers, that guy was off the hizzle.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What's new here? What did he disrupt? If it hadn't been caught on camera, would anyone know it happened, including anyone sitting behind or in front of him (and most people to either side, for that matter)? No. I'd hardly call that a "disruption."

    Why this is such a big deal to you is beyond me.
    When Obama speaks, you are only allowed to cheer or listen intently. I'm going to go ahead and be the first to say that Alito's "disruption" was probably because he has inherent racist tendencies. Do you think he would have been so rude and obnoxious with a white president?
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    I have to say, that I certainly resent this sort of insinuation. You have known me for what, 5 years now? You should know my character by now, and know what kind of person I am. This "crap" is beneath me, indeed!



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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Sotomayor didn't even notice. Yeah, break out the tazers, that guy was off the hizzle.


    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    When Obama speaks, you are only allowed to cheer or listen intently. I'm going to go ahead and be the first to say that Alito's "disruption" was probably because he has inherent racist tendencies. Do you think he would have been so rude and obnoxious with a white president?
    You know you are right, I'm already seeing those kind of comments pop up, thankfully not here at DP. Not yet at least.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Frankly, such a blatant lie by our President, I'm surpised most of the SCOUTS didn't rush the podium and pummel Obama into ground meat. It's one thing to stretch the truth or spin, but such an outright lie at a State of the Union address with the SCOTUS sitting right in front of Obama - and Obama supposedly being a Constitutional Professor at Hahvahd... not only was the action by Obama one of the biggest lies ever... but done in front of millions is unfortunately par for the course with this President.

    You see his MO is... spend trillions then afterwards, hold a speech about fiscal responsibility. Sign a bill for 800 billion with 9,000 pork laden ear marks and then call on Congress for less pork and the posting of ear marks on the web. The American Indians used to call that a "forked tongue".
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    No. He didn't disrupt anything.
    Ignoring the fact that what you posted was partially in essence what I've been saying, that its ridiculous to just criticize Alito when it could be equally said that Obama did wrong too, your article is a bit off

    It could be argued that a president should not publicly challenge the legitimacy of a Supreme Court decision, especially with the justices sitting in the audience. A president is a politician with opinions about political matters, but he generally should foster respect for court decisions.

    But it can equally be argued that Justice Alito needs to acquire some adult impulse control. Is Justice Alito so personally insecure that he couldn't just let the court's written opinion stand for itself? The court has its own forum for presenting opinions, and it's not at the State of the Union address.
    Alito didn't use it as a forum for presenting opinions. He didn't get up on a mic. He didn't stand up and state it out loud. He did not wave his arms going "look at me, look at me". He had a quick instant reaction while in the crowd of a speech. That's not trying to use it as a "forum" to present his opinion, that's reacting to something.

    Should he have reacted that way? Not really. But it was no more classless, no more uncalled for, no more unacceptable than Obama's OWN breach of decorum and class that spurred it

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