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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I seriously doubt that....



    2 USC 441e - U.S. Code - Title 2: The Congress - 2 USC 441 - Sec. 441e. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals - vLex

    This law was not changed or in any way part of this SC decision, so why would anyone think that it opened the door to foreign electioneering?

    Barry was lying, and he knew he was lying.... deal with it.
    Would you please provide evidence that he knew he was lying? I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm waiting.............

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Would you please provide evidence that he knew he was lying? I can't wait to see what you come up with. I'm waiting.............
    So you're saying he wasn't lying, and is just stupid?

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh, you're assuming that his misrepresentation was intentional. LOL Okay.
    Look at what he said vs. the truth. It was either intentional or with reckless disregard. (Which is what I said originally; go back and look.) Either way it amounts to the same thing. He's a celebrated Constitutional Law professor, editor of the Harvard Law Review, etc. He knows how to read a case. He knows the difference. So either he did it intentionally, or he simply didn't care enough to check. Which would mean, of course, he's commenting on a case he hasn't read.

    Either way, if you're going to get soooooo (bafflingly) bothered by Alito for simply, quietly mouthing "not true," you'd think such a display on Obama's part might upset you, too. But I guess not.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    This is what Obama said:



    Besides the "century of law" canard, he makes it sound like the decision was affirmatively that foreign corporations were protected, when what actually happened was that an overbroad restriction on corporations was struck down. They specifically said they didn't reach any question on foreign contributions.
    I will give you the 100 years part since I find no actual references to anything over 20 years old. However, isn't it that since they didn't touch the foreign contribution part, it is why it left open the possibility?
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    Ideally Obama shouldn't have disrespected the Supreme Court, but since he did Alito should have tried to keep his decorum as a Justice. The other Justices seemed uncomfortable too, but the supreme court should have high standards.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I will give you the 100 years part since I find no actual references to anything over 20 years old. However, isn't it that since they didn't touch the foreign contribution part, it is why it left open the possibility?
    I don't follow.

    Sec 441e (not struck down) prohibits foreign nationals and foreign corporations from making contributions or expenditures.

    As for the idea that domestic corporations could be under control of foreign interests, etc., that's specifically still something Congress can address; this decision doesn't prevent that.

    But even without that, existing FEC regulations (not struck down) prevent a nominally-domestic foreign-owned entity from participating. 11 CFR 110.20(i):

    Participation by foreign nationals in
    decisions involving election-related activities.

    A foreign national shall not direct,
    dictate, control, or directly or indirectly
    participate in the decision-making
    process of any person, such as a
    corporation, labor organization, political
    committee, or political organization
    with regard to such person’s Federal
    or non-Federal election-related activities,
    such as decisions concerning
    the making of contributions, donations,
    expenditures, or disbursements
    in connection with elections for any
    Federal, State, or local office or decisions
    concerning the administration of
    a political committee.
    EDIT: link: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...1cfr110.20.pdf
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    Ideally Obama shouldn't have disrespected the Supreme Court, but since he did Alito should have tried to keep his decorum as a Justice. The other Justices seemed uncomfortable too, but the supreme court should have high standards.
    Ginsburg fell asleep during the speech. How's THAT not disrespectful?
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ginsburg fell asleep during the speech. How's THAT not disrespectful?
    She seems to just be hunched over to me.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ginsburg fell asleep during the speech. How's THAT not disrespectful?
    Considering her health problems and the meds she is most likely on, I am willing to give her a pass. Actually, as long as you don't disrupt, I could care less what you do in the audience.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Considering her health problems and the meds she is most likely on, I am willing to give her a pass. Actually, as long as you don't disrupt, I could care less what you do in the audience.
    Just making the comparison. Alito didn't disrupt anything, except maybe aps's day.
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