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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Here...is the State of the Union Address, you don't take swipes at the Court in front of you. Your not knowing this doesn't excuse Obama's clownish antics.

    Obama is an inexperienced mental midget.



    You know how funny that sounds coming from you??

    Your comments up to this point are like the overweight slob sitting at Yankee stadium yelling at A-Rod for swinging at one bad pitch. A professional athlete has more athleticism in his little finger than the human waste sitting in the stands guzzling beers--yet from the safety of the stands, fatso can yell whatever he wants.

    On the anonymous internet, you can pretend to have a Phd in economics and a law degree. It's amazing how partisans believe their intelligence and life accomplishments are some how in the same league with a sitting President.

    Obama was overstating the 'bankrolling' impact of the court's decision--not the first time a politician has ever done that.

    Indeed, the legal experts we spoke to after Obama's radio address said that the president was overstating the immediate impact of the opinion. They said Obama was correct that the ruling could open the door to foreign companies spending on American campaigns, given the general direction of the majority's opinion. But because the majority justices didn't actually strike down the existing barriers on foreign companies -- in fact, they explicitly wrote that it fell beyond the boundaries of their decision -- our experts agreed that Obama erred by suggesting that the issue is settled law. Until test cases proceed and further rulings are handed down, Obama's claim about foreign campaign spending is a reasonable interpretation, and nothing more.
    Alito shook is head and made a quiet remark. Big deal. Biden was shaking his head all night.

    But of course FNC rolled out their new queen to begin talking out of her ass... Sarah Palin, a woman who couldn't name one supreme court case besides Roe v Wade is now acting like she's some sort of scholar -- and now ideologues on internet can echo her moronic talking points...

    I think this is all about the far-right comfort zone being pushed, seeing the Republican senators and congressmen stand up and clap so many times. They need to make the SOTUS all about one moment and not bother to actually discuss the entire speech.

    To see the right side of the aisle leap up and clap so many times must be killing the far-right fringe Tea Bagger bigots... I'm surprised they're not analyzing the tape and pointing out the Rinos.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And there was no "debate" going on. There was a person in the audiance commenting privately to another person and it got picked up on a TV camera. Your statement about it not being a debate forum makes it seem that Alito jumped forward to counter the President. He didn't. The President of the United States just used the SOTU address to take a pot shot at the Supreme Court by using a lie, and amazed as this breech of decorum and class he made a comment to someone. Yet somehow Alito is the only one worthy of scorn.

    That's hardly "classless" in my book. Perhaps a break of decorum? Maybe.

    But no more so than Obama's break in Decorum by lying about the ramifications of a surpreme court decision and attacking said decision in the SOTU addressed, which has not been done in over 3 decades apparently.
    I don't know why you're so up in arms about my opinion. While what Obama did was not common, I don't think saying he disagrees with a Supreme Court decision is rude. Is it rude if Obama is sitting in the Supeme Court and a Justice reads the ruling on a decision that finds a law Obama passed unconstitutional? It would be one thing if he insulted a particular Justice or Justices. While he misrepresented the ruling, I don't believe it was intentional.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    I don't think it's a non-event. If the president thinks it's OK to try to influence the Supreme Court through embarassment and intimidation on national television, then that's a pretty good reason why he shouldn't be president anymore.

    But then, I already knew he shouldn't be president anymore, so maybe in that sense it is a non-event.

    Hopefully it changes some other people's minds though.
    He's trying to influence the SC? LMAO

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't know why you're so up in arms about my opinion. While what Obama did was not common, I don't think saying he disagrees with a Supreme Court decision is rude. Is it rude if Obama is sitting in the Supeme Court and a Justice reads the ruling on a decision that finds a law Obama passed unconstitutional? It would be one thing if he insulted a particular Justice or Justices. While he misrepresented the ruling, I don't believe it was intentional.
    No, it wouldn't be rude for a Justice to do that, because that's not uncommon. That's their job. Its a regular, typical, every day (relatively speaking) thing for a Supreme Court Justice to make a ruling on a case.

    What isn't usual, or common, or even precedented in over 30 years, is using the State of the Union to speak negatively about a Supreme Court decision, while they're sitting there, when the court is meant to be roughly apolitical would be inappropriate for them to actively publicly defend themselves against a flat out lie by the President.

    I don't know why you're so up in arms about a man who just got unprecedentatly attacked on a national stage privately whispering his disagreement to someone.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    It is difficult to understand the level of actual anger against Alito here. Even if it was inappropriate to quietly say "that's not true" on a factual assertion by the President, it certainly doesn't warrant this kind of reaction.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You're kidding right. You continue to slam him for being "classless" while continuing to ignore that Obama broke decorum and ettiquite as well, doing something that hasn't been done since Ford so you're talking, what, at least 32 SOTU's? And on top of that the swipe he took that broke decorum was arguably a lie.

    But you have NO negative words for Obama, NO words speaking of his behavior, his "classlessness".

    But you have an issue with a person sitting in the audiance talking to someone during a speech privately that happened to be caught on camera speaking his displeasure?

    You've never attended an event that you've commented on the speech quietly, privately, to a person you're attending it with before?

    If this was like the recent one and he jumped up and said "You Lie!" I'd agree with you, just as I agreed then. But he didn't, he didn't make a big spectacle, he made a small private comment that got caught on camera.

    Yet he's classless and worthy of all codemnation while you completely ignore Obama.

    With all that said, Alito has to be aware of the world we live in now a days. If you want to comment lean over to the person and cover your mouth because we live in the digital age and every movement of the eyes, lips, or hands is going to be disected in a thing like this.
    I find interesting how conservatives will attack Obama for sneezing and call it "disgraceful" or "uncontionable"; however, those same people never say a negative word about the dispiciable actions of their own.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It is difficult to understand the level of anger against Alito here.
    Alito is and always has been a Bush flunky. He is a robed politician who should never have been appointed to the SCOTUS.

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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Alito is and always has been a Bush flunky. He is a robed politician who should never have been appointed to the SCOTUS.
    Even if that were 100% true and not typical Vader way-over-the-top nuclear-powered hyperbole, it still doesn't make him incorrect, what Obama said any less untrue, or quietly mouthing "that's not true" in response any more than a tiny blip.
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    Re: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

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    Doesn't explain the top 10% grades
    But was he at the BOTTOM of that top 10%? Please don't answer that. I am on a fishing expedition.
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