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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is crap and Obama talking points. There is no proof of jobs saved and Obama even counts raises as job saved even though they would not have lost their jobs.

    Obama Is lying about jobs.

    We are still losing hundreds of thousands of jobs.

    Another Disappointment: 480,000 New Jobless Claims

    Economists had been looking and hoping for about 458,000, so today's continuing claims number of 480,000 is a disappointment.
    While I realize that math is generally a concept that most people here fail to use (along with comprehending the written English Language), a decline in jobs does not mean no new jobs were created.

    If 600,000 jobs were lost, but 260,000 were created, the net loss is 340,000. Does that mean that no jobs were created as you and Conservative are arguing? No.

    I suppose the notion of "net" and "gross" are pretty much not worth discussing here eh?
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Facts are going to earn you a whole slew of insults from some here.
    Good. Let's give Conservative a ticket to where he belongs. Banned-dom.

    He never did answer my question did he?

    Not surprising.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Unlike Conservative's piss poor job of arguing that tax cuts were the reason raw, unrefined, unprocessed and un-analyzed data showed an increase in tax revenues, the department of labor website actually has data that's been run to produce a conclusive answer.

    And to further hurt Conservative, Guess what happened to U6?

    It's down. The LARGEST, most inclusive, most broadly defined measure of unemployment has declined.

    Table A-15.Alternative measures of labor underutilization

    I,m sure when he looks at my link, he will have a knee jerk moment and say that it didn't include the people that were discouraged and gave up the job hunt; disregarding the fact that policy has been in effect for years.

    I believe that has changed, according to the BLS site kinda looks to me like they have tightened that up a bit.Go check it out OC and scroll down on the site and see if looks that way to you.I have had a long day and the old eyes have started to droop,getting a little foggy.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Good. Let's give Conservative a ticket to where he belongs. Banned-dom.

    He never did answer my question did he?

    Not surprising.
    Yea, he taught his mini-me (ptif219) well too, as he didn't answer a question for me as well.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Republicans can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but at this particular point in time they are only fooling 27% of the people.

    Congress approval is 18%

    Townhall.com Blog : Meredith Jessup : Congress Approval Rating Plummets to Pathetic 18%

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Unlike Conservative's piss poor job of arguing that tax cuts were the reason raw, unrefined, unprocessed and un-analyzed data showed an increase in tax revenues, the department of labor website actually has data that's been run to produce a conclusive answer.

    And to further hurt Conservative, Guess what happened to U6?

    It's down. The LARGEST, most inclusive, most broadly defined measure of unemployment has declined.

    Table A-15.Alternative measures of labor underutilization
    Wow I said 17% and it is 18% or 16.5% depending if you believe the adjustment or not.

    It still is about 10% to high.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The same thing was said about JFK.
    Are saying Obama will be assassinated.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    While I realize that math is generally a concept that most people here fail to use (along with comprehending the written English Language), a decline in jobs does not mean no new jobs were created.

    If 600,000 jobs were lost, but 260,000 were created, the net loss is 340,000. Does that mean that no jobs were created as you and Conservative are arguing? No.

    I suppose the notion of "net" and "gross" are pretty much not worth discussing here eh?
    That means if jobs are still being lost Obama is losing the fight.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Yea, he taught his mini-me (ptif219) well too, as he didn't answer a question for me as well.
    What question?

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Congress approval is 18%
    Still higher than the 11% approval of the Republicans. And Obama is at a 53% approval rate. That must really suck for the Republicans!

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    That,s on the high side,the latest gallop has the repugs at 11%.

    Thanks donc!
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