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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    So, would you prefer that they use a chinese abacus
    It would be refreshing for our leftwing socialists to actually admit what we all know, they don't have a clue how to stimulate and grow the economy. None have held a real job and thus don't understand business. looks like we have a lot of empty suits in the WH that get their support from people like you.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This recession is more like the one during Carter, Reagan than the great depression.
    Because effective emergency action was taken by this president.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because effective emergency action was taken by this president.
    Doesn't it make you question what "your" President did while in the Senate in a Congress controlled by the Democrats? We don't elect a King and to continue to blame Bush and ignore what little Obama has done is quite telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Along with the unions and the democrats. It means nothing.

    I am against entitlements yet my son receives SSI and medicaid I guess in your eyes I am a hypocrite.
    The stimulus was not an entitlement, it was to stimulate job creation and retention in states with a budget shortfall and a backlog of infrastructure needs.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is your opinion, prove it? It doesn't seem to take a lot of effort to amaze you especially when it comes to partisan leftwing rhetoric.
    Are we in a depression? No, there is your proof. If you wish to prove that jobs were not created and retained, knock yourself out!

    State's fund police and fire departments, not the Federal govt. States fund school teachers, not the Federal Govt. Your ignorance of the Federal and State govermment is staggering.
    We needed to spend money to stimulate the economy, so it made perfect sense to also assist the states with their budget shortfalls to create and retain jobs with needed infrastructure needs at the same time.

    Your posts are very angry! Is there a medical reason for that?
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Catawba;1058558733]Are we in a depression? No, there is your proof. If you wish to prove that jobs were not created and retained, knock yourself out!
    We weren't in a depression when he took office, unemployment was 7.6%. Is it higher or lower now? You buy what you are told by Obama when the facts prove that he has yet to keep a major campaign promise.

    Obama will spend more money and create more debt in 2 years than Bush did in 8. You buy that it was money that needed to spend. Millions of Americans disagree and you are in a minority that believes that the stimulus worked

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, he told us that the stimulus plan had to be passed immediately to keep the unemployment rate at 8%. 800 billion later the unemployment rate has risen with oave 15 million now unemployed and millions others not counted and out of the work force. That is hope and change only a true liberal can support.
    Oooooo liberal bad conservative good. Way to go. You say you never listen to rush limbaugh but you use his talking points.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We weren't in a depression when he took office, unemployment was 7.6%. Is it higher or lower now? You buy what you are told by Obama when the facts prove that he has yet to keep a major campaign promise.

    Obama will spend more money and create more debt in 2 years than Bush did in 8. You buy that it was money that needed to spend. Millions of Americans disagree and you are in a minority that believes that the stimulus worked
    Way too much glen beck.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    TDOT is the one that miscalculated the job estimates. And the reporter did not deduct the value of the construction projects before dividing up the stimulus money between the jobs created, nor does she include the jobs retained.

    OMB stated the accounting change was to avoid subjective and thus inaccurate counting:
    "OMB Memo: [R]ecipients will no longer be required to make a subjective judgment on whether jobs were created or retained as a result of the Recovery Act. Instead, recipients will more easily and objectively report on jobs funded with Recovery Act dollars."
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Along with the unions and the democrats. It means nothing.

    I am against entitlements yet my son receives SSI and medicaid I guess in your eyes I am a hypocrite.
    I would say that you are even weirder than a hypocrite. Do you hate your son for it?

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