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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The bush family are great friends with the bin laden family. In fact he helped most of them escape back to saudi aribia after 9-11.
    No Clark authorized that

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I read what you post and unless this is an act, my statement is accurate. Your lack of facts and postings of leftwing website information and falsehoods supports my claims
    Attacking the messenger. How original

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No Clark authorized that
    Clark Kent?

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Clark Kent?
    Richard Clark

    Bin Laden Family 'Evacuated' From US | Home | Sky News


    The revelations come from former White House counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke.

    He said the Bush administration sanctioned the repatriation of the family in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.

    'Repatriation approved'

    "Somebody brought to us for approval the decision to let an airplane filled with Saudis, including members of the bin Laden family, leave the country," he told Vanity Fair magazine.

    Mr Clarke said he checked with FBI officials, who gave the go ahead. "So I said, 'Fine, let it happen'."

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    If you're going to continue emitting talking points without researching or addressing the fact that Bush signed the treaty of withdrawal from Iraq, and Obama is only following it through, then fine, whatever helps you sleep at night. I really don't care.
    Bush never issued orders for the Pentagon to plan for the withdrawal from Iraq.

    Who's withdrawal decision were the generals seeking to reverse?

    "Generals Seek To Reverse Obama's Iraq Withdrawal Decision"

    "WASHINGTON, Feb 2, 2009 (IPS) - CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus, supported by Defence Secretary Robert Gates, tried to convince President Barack Obama that he had to back down from his campaign pledge to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months at an Oval Office meeting Jan. 21.

    But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting."
    Generals Seek To Reverse Obama's Iraq Withdrawal Decision
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Bush never issued orders for the Pentagon to plan for the withdrawal from Iraq.

    Who's withdrawal decision were the generals seeking to reverse?

    "Generals Seek To Reverse Obama's Iraq Withdrawal Decision"

    "WASHINGTON, Feb 2, 2009 (IPS) - CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus, supported by Defence Secretary Robert Gates, tried to convince President Barack Obama that he had to back down from his campaign pledge to withdraw all U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months at an Oval Office meeting Jan. 21.

    But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting."
    Generals Seek To Reverse Obama's Iraq Withdrawal Decision
    That headline is misleading. He made no decision; the article referred only to a "campaign pledge". The article is from a year ago, and he has since made no move to carry out that pledge. He's instead followed Bush's plan for withdrawal.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That headline is misleading. He made no decision; the article referred only to a "campaign pledge". The article is from a year ago, and he has since made no move to carry out that pledge. He's instead followed Bush's plan for withdrawal.

    No, the article refers to Obama's first official act in office, his orders on Jan 21 to the Pentagon to develop plans for withdrawal from Iraq, just as he promised in his campaign.

    "This was at an Oval Office meeting on January 21.

    But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs chairman Admiral Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting."
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, the article refers to Obama's first official act in office, his orders on Jan 21 to the Pentagon to develop plans for withdrawal from Iraq, just as he promised in his campaign.

    "This was at an Oval Office meeting on January 21.

    But Obama informed Gates, Petraeus and Joint Chiefs chairman Admiral Mike Mullen that he wasn't convinced and that he wanted Gates and the military leaders to come back quickly with a detailed 16-month plan, according to two sources who have talked with participants in the meeting."
    Asia Times Online :: Middle East News, Iraq, Iran current affairs
    Again, that was a year ago, and nothing has been done since then.

    Were he to follow through with his 16-month promise, troops would have to be out by the end of May. That's simply not going to happen, and nobody is suggesting that it will.

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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Again, that was a year ago, and nothing has been done since then.
    Sorry, wrong again.

    "Marines end Iraq mission as Army begins accelerated withdrawal"

    Were he to follow through with his 16-month promise, troops would have to be out by the end of May. That's simply not going to happen, and nobody is suggesting that it will.
    It took the Pentagon 4 months to develop plans from Obama's Jan 21 order. !6 months from when withdrawal plans were ready has the last of the combat troops out by Aug. 2010.
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    Re: Obama State of the Union

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry, wrong again.

    "Marines end Iraq mission as Army begins accelerated withdrawal"



    It took the Pentagon 4 months to develop plans from Obama's Jan 21 order. !6 months from when withdrawal plans were ready has the last of the combat troops out by Aug. 2010.
    From the article:

    If all goes as planned, the last remaining Marines will be followed out by tens of thousands of soldiers in the coming months. President Barack Obama has ordered all but 50,000 troops out of the country by Aug. 31, 2010, with most to depart after the March 7 parliamentary election.

    The remaining troops will leave by the end of 2011 under a U.S.-Iraqi security pact.
    (The pact mentioned was signed by Bush)

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