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    ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling - January 24, 2010 - The New York Sun

    The first big impact of the Supreme Court’s decision lifting restrictions on certain corporation campaign spending may be at the American Civil Liberties Union, which, after years of opposing restrictions on free speech grounds, is convening this weekend to decide whether to reverse course and endorse government limits on campaign spending. The ACLU has long opposed government limits to how much a donor can give to a political campaign or spend airing advertisements on an issue during an election.

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    But Thursday’s Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, which would enable corporations to spend freely on political causes, is forcing the ACLU to address what one internal memo describes as a "Skokie moment," a reference to the controversy in which the organization defended the right of American Nazis to march in the Chicago suburb of Skokie. The moment is often seen as one of the acid tests of the ACLU’s willingness to stick to its First Amendment principles.
    But a contrary view was expressed by another one of the invited attorneys, Floyd Abrams, who was one of the lawyers for the victorious side in Citizen’s United and who yesterday urged the ACLU not to change its position. Mr. Abrams warned that the organization would be allowing its political sensibilities to get the best of its principles. “The worst thing you could do – the absolutely worst thing you could do – is transform a civil liberties organization into a liberal political organization,” Mr. Abrams, one of the most famous First Amendment laywers in the country, told the board. Mr. Abrams pointed out that the ACLU had itself filed a brief in the Citizen's United case on behalf of the side that ultimately won. “There will be some people who think you’re a little fickle for changing your policy three days after one of the greatest victories in this organization,” Mr. Abrams said.
    I hope that the ACLU stands up for its principles here and listens to Mr. Abrams. A change in course now would severely undermine their credibility.
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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    I hope that the ACLU stands up for its principles here and listens to Mr. Abrams. A change in course now would severely undermine their credibility.
    agreed, if the ACLU wants to protect the first amendment whenever possible, then they need to be supportive of the Supreme Court ruling, even if they realize that the ruling will harm our country.


    Principled groups (for better or worse) can not be caught up in the practical results of policies, because that would make their primary goal practical, when in fact they are suppose to be principled.

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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    The ACLU is going to come down on whichever side of this issue that best supports their Liberal agenda.
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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The ACLU is going to come down on whichever side of this issue that best supports their Liberal agenda.
    They have argued for Limbaugh in the past.

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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

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    They have argued for Limbaugh in the past.
    Don't confuse him with facts.
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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

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    ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling - January 24, 2010 - The New York Sun





    I hope that the ACLU stands up for its principles here and listens to Mr. Abrams. A change in course now would severely undermine their credibility.
    What credibility?
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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

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    I hope that the ACLU stands up for its principles here and listens to Mr. Abrams. A change in course now would severely undermine their credibility.
    But what if one group can just buy up all the media time?

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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    But what if one group can just buy up all the media time?
    that is a different issue then protecting the first amendment. the ACLU is a civil liberties protection group who protects the first amendment, not a group working to protect society

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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    even if they realize that the ruling will harm our country.

    How will this ruling hurt the country?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: ACLU May Reverse Course on Campaign Finance Limits After Supreme Court Ruling

    ACLU has remained in my mind, out of all the countless organizations that have come and gone, relevant by being above all easy and trite classifications. It'd be disappointing to see them renegade on that.

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