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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    I have no doubt that the police officer lied about the attempted head-butt. When someone is drunk they are obviously going to not be able to stand straight.
    You know many cops have lied when they are writing about what happened because they don't want to get into trouble. So I can bet that the officer is a lying scumbag many police officers are.
    So you just assume the cops are lying. You actually believe they just arrested the guy because they felt like it? They obviously had a reason to believe the guy was intoxicated. He looked intoxicated and out of control to me. And the video does show him resisting. The cops account of the event is perfectly plausible.
    I can stand straight when I am drunk. And I can head butt with the best of them while intoxicated.

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you just assume the cops are lying. You actually believe they just arrested the guy because they felt like it? They obviously had a reason to believe the guy was intoxicated. He looked intoxicated and out of control to me. And the video does show him resisting. The cops account of the event is perfectly plausible.
    I can stand straight when I am drunk. And I can head butt with the best of them while intoxicated.
    Didn't they say they arrested him for "resisting arrest"?

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you just assume the cops are lying. You actually believe they just arrested the guy because they felt like it? They obviously had a reason to believe the guy was intoxicated. He looked intoxicated and out of control to me. And the video does show him resisting. The cops account of the event is perfectly plausible.
    I can stand straight when I am drunk. And I can head butt with the best of them while intoxicated.
    Obviously you have not read enough accounts of the San Diego police department written by minority officers. The San Diego police department exuberates on many of their accounts of the way things go down. Sorry to break it to you, but police officers lie frequently. Its a police officers JOB to look for CRIME not stop criminals.
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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    I assume nothing, but I seriously doubt the guy was arrested for just cheering for the Jets. It looked more like a case of disorderly conduct or intoxication. His buddies were claiming he did nothing wrong.......what were they supposed to say?
    We did not see the whole tape and what actually led to the arrest. The cops were already restraining him when we got back to the video. We did see him resisting.
    It was random Chargers fans who were defending the guy. You can't be arrested for resisting arrest. You have to be arrested for something else first. And if that something else is unjust, then resisting is excusable. The cops must be held accountable for their actions. You cannot be allowed to run around and arrest people at whim. Everything in the video appeared that the Jets fan was cheering for the Jets and got arrested for it. The random Chargers fans in the vicinity defended the Jets fan saying he did nothing wrong.
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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    There might be more to it than the video shows. There is some missing time between when he is cheering and the cops are cuffing him.
    No, it's on the internet, it can't be misleading.

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It was random Chargers fans who were defending the guy. You can't be arrested for resisting arrest. You have to be arrested for something else first. And if that something else is unjust, then resisting is excusable. The cops must be held accountable for their actions. You cannot be allowed to run around and arrest people at whim. Everything in the video appeared that the Jets fan was cheering for the Jets and got arrested for it. The random Chargers fans in the vicinity defended the Jets fan saying he did nothing wrong.
    You can be arrested for not following an officers legal order. The cop wanted to get him out of the stands to talk to him and probably check his sobriety. He refused to go.
    Do you really believe the cops did it for kicks?

    You did not see the entire video. The most important part, the initial arrest was not there. I have witnessed people getting arrested including my friends. Everybody always claims "he didn't do anything", "he is innocent" etc
    It sure looked like the guy was drunk to me.

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Didn't they say they arrested him for "resisting arrest"?
    ............"Carroll was arrested on suspicion of public intoxication and delaying or obstructing a police officer in his duties."

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    Obviously you have not read enough accounts of the San Diego police department written by minority officers. The San Diego police department exuberates on many of their accounts of the way things go down. Sorry to break it to you, but police officers lie frequently. Its a police officers JOB to look for CRIME not stop criminals.
    So why did they arrest this guy? Do you honestly think his cheering for the Jets offended them?
    He was drunk.

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    There seems to be two sides here. One that the police always lie. The other that the guy got arrested for disorderly conduct and failure to cooperate.

    One can't help notice that the fans around him said he did nothing wrong. Maybe they didn't view him as a physical threat.

    Again as Dirty Harry said , Why would the cops single this guy to attack? When the cops talked to the other fans they were not in their face. You can hear the one officer tell the gentleman in the row below that he wouldn't cooperate.

    Put yourself in the cop shoes. You have some 70,000 people in attendance with a fair number of intoxicated fans. If they wanted they could arrest a huge number for public intoxication but basically they just keep a lid on things. They don't want to arrest a thousand or so for public intoxication.
    What they do have to do is prevent fans from fighting in the stands or bothering other fans.

    Click on google and search fan fights at football games and you can see what every Sunday they deal with.

    There is tape missing here or the person stopped taping until it got more intense. Either way none of us were there and really don't know what caused the final confrontation.

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    Re: Police arrest football fan for rooting the wrong team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    You can be arrested for not following an officers legal order. The cop wanted to get him out of the stands to talk to him and probably check his sobriety. He refused to go.
    Do you really believe the cops did it for kicks?

    You did not see the entire video. The most important part, the initial arrest was not there. I have witnessed people getting arrested including my friends. Everybody always claims "he didn't do anything", "he is innocent" etc
    It sure looked like the guy was drunk to me.
    Being drunk isn't against the law in and of itself, except for pathetic selectively enforced laws like "public drunkenness" which shouldn't be a law in the first place. There needs to be actual offense. Till such is given, presumption of innocence falls to the individual not the cops.
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