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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I rest my case. Where in the Constitution does it say that a Corporation is a person and entitled to the same rights as people?
    Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech.

    It doesn't say, "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech except for corporations."

    Speech is speech is speech. It doesn't matter where it comes or what medium it's being disseminated through, Congress shall make NO LAW, period!
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh please....that's quite a stretch. The so-called "Strict Constructionists" aren't any more strict constructionist then anyone else, unless it fits their agenda.
    The idea that corporations and inanimate objects are entitled to the same rights as people under our Constitution requires a huge stretch of the imagination.
    Corporations are made up of people. Thanks for playing.

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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Corporations are made up of people. Thanks for playing.
    still stretching to try to mold into your "strict constructionist" view?
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Doesn't say anything about rights there. Nor is it legally binding anyway. We the people refers to who created the Constitution, that's all.
    You need to take a refresher course about english grammar. The most important words in any writing at at the very beginning. After that, the words are supposed to support the first ones.

    You are reading backwards.

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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You need to take a refresher course about english grammar. The most important words in any writing at at the very beginning. After that, the words are supposed to support the first ones.

    You are reading backwards.
    The most important words are not always at the beginning. This is not a grammar issue anyway.

    The Preamble has no legal force. It is useful for understanding the Constitution and its purpose, but its words are not law.

    Mr. Justice Harlan delivered the opinion of the court:

    We pass without extended discussion the suggestion that the particular section of the statute of Massachusetts now in question ( 137, chap. 75) is in derogation of rights secured by the preamble of the Constitution of the United States. Although that preamble indicates the general purposes for which the people ordained and established the Constitution, it has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the government of the United States, or on any of its departments. Such powers embrace only those expressly granted in the body of the Constitution, and such as may be implied from those so granted. Although, therefore, one of the declared objects of the Constitution was to secure the blessings of liberty to all under the sovereign jurisdiction and authority of the United States, no power can be exerted to that end by the United States, unless, apart from the preamble, it be found in some express delegation of power, or in some power to be properly implied therefrom. 1 Story, Const. 462.
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    BTW, taking stabs in the dark isn't working out for you. I'm older than you think, and I have a fair amount of expertise in both government and English. Just stick to the topic.
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Link here

    Umm, what?

    He doesn't like the decision so he's threatening THE SURPREME COURT, an Equal part of government to not him but his entire BRANCH, with "hearings" simply because he disagrees with a decision they rendered concerning the constitution...which is, you know, they're job?

    This is ridiculous.
    .....hmm....I'll remember all the people who thanked this post when we're talking about any Supreme court decisions they might not like.
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    .....hmm....I'll remember all the people who thanked this post when we're talking about any Supreme court decisions they might not like.
    What's your point here? How many times have you heard of folks in Congress calling for hearings on a court decision because they didn't like it?
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What's your point here? How many times have you heard of folks in Congress calling for hearings on a court decision because they didn't like it?
    No. Read what I actually wrote.
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The most important words are not always at the beginning. This is not a grammar issue anyway.

    The Preamble has no legal force. It is useful for understanding the Constitution and its purpose, but its words are not law.



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    BTW, taking stabs in the dark isn't working out for you. I'm older than you think, and I have a fair amount of expertise in both government and English. Just stick to the topic.
    You made my point. "It is useful for understanding the constitution and its purpose". Are not the enumerations words?

    Why don't you report me for being off topic?

    Could you ellaborate on your experience.
    ? Just saying so does nothing to convince me how very smart you are.
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    Re: Schumer calls for hearings on 'un-American' court decision

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    You made my point. "It is useful for understanding the constitution and its purpose". Are not the enumerations words?
    Yes - with no legal force.

    The peamble says "we the people" created the constitution. That doesn't even come close to saying that only people have a right to freedom of speech in the First Amendment, especially when the amendment is written as a limitation on government power, not a granting of rights - and when it expressly protects groups, not just people, for other rights.

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