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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    It's not your fault your ancestors lost the struggle to maintain their independence, but it happened.....
    You won't live long enough to see them regain it either....
    Whatever does survive will be a far cry from what was....
    No one, other than indians, really gives a **** what they allowed to happen to themselves....
    Yeah, **** those Jews too. They had it coming.

    Posts like yours should be bannable.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, **** those Jews too. They had it coming.

    Posts like yours should be bannable.
    It gets old hearing all the sniveling from descendants of the conquered, they really need to get over it.......
    BTW, I like Jews just fine....
    They keep the Arabs in line.....
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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    This is how this excuse for an “exchange” is going. I rebut your fallacies; you repeat them. I rebut them again; you repeat them again. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. What will your response to this be other than another false claim that a small group of a European nation destroyed all of native America, accompanied by several wink emoticons, apparently your most advanced method of communication?

    It’s been made very clear to you that the vast majority of Amerindian casualties were the result of the spread of infectious disease, with a substantial number being caused by other Indians. Remember this?

    Chapter 3 deals with what Restall calls "the Myth of the White Conquistador" — the belief that the Spanish conquest was accomplished by a small number of white Spaniards. Restall claims that much of the actual military operations was undertaken by the indigenous allies of the Conquistadors, outnumbering the actual Spanish forces by many hundreds to one. He also shows that there were several conquistadors of African and Moorish descent — dispelling the idea of the conquest as a victory of the "white Europeans" over the "red Indians"...Chapter 7 deals with what Restall calls "The Myth of Superiority" — the belief that the success of the Spanish conquest was due to either the supposed technological superiority of the Spaniards or a kind of inherent cultural superiority — and that Spanish victory was therefore inevitable. Restall claims that such technological advantages as handguns, cannons, steel armor, horses and dogs weren't of great consequence in the actual fighting since they were all in short supply, and that the Aztecs were not daunted by this new technology for long. He also refutes the notion that the Indians' lack of alphabetic writing constituted a major drawback. Nor were the Indians childlike, naive or cowardly in comparison with the Spanish such as many early Spanish sources have painted them. Restall argues that the factors behind the success of the conquistadors were mostly the devastating effect of European diseases for which the Indians had no resistance, the disunity between indigenous groups some of which allied with the Spaniards early, the technological advantage of the steel sword, native battle practices that were not upheld by the Spaniards — such as killing non-combatants and civilians, and most importantly the fact that the Indians were fighting on their own ground with their families and fields to care for, which made them quicker to compromise.
    And more than that, if the British or Spanish had come to America and utterly devastated everyone and everything in some Avatar-type scenario, you’d still have no more reason for “pride” in this accomplishment than random distant biological relation to someone that lived centuries ago, something not a conscious choice or accomplishment. And I'll tell you...when the Indian masses from Mexico overcome the U.S., as will eventually occur, will they be more concerned about a disruptive European interloper who bragged that they were dead, or a grizzled old Apache in his rocking chair who’s not bothering anyone and is superficially indistinguishable from them?

    You don't seem to be able to do much other than repeat the same lines over and over again. You wouldn't happen to be a bot, would you?

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    This is how this excuse for an “exchange” is going. I rebut your fallacies; you repeat them. I rebut them again; you repeat them again. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. What will your response to this be other than another false claim that a small group of a European nation destroyed all of native America, accompanied by several wink emoticons, apparently your most advanced method of communication?

    It’s been made very clear to you that the vast majority of Amerindian casualties were the result of the spread of infectious disease, with a substantial number being caused by other Indians. Remember this?



    And more than that, if the British or Spanish had come to America and utterly devastated everyone and everything in some Avatar-type scenario, you’d still have no more reason for “pride” in this accomplishment than random distant biological relation to someone that lived centuries ago, something not a conscious choice or accomplishment. And I'll tell you...when the Indian masses from Mexico overcome the U.S., as will eventually occur, will they be more concerned about a disruptive European interloper who bragged that they were dead, or a grizzled old Apache in his rocking chair who’s not bothering anyone and is superficially indistinguishable from them?

    You don't seem to be able to do much other than repeat the same lines over and over again. You wouldn't happen to be a bot, would you?
    Decimated is decimated.....
    If it makes you feel better, disease was the main cause of the native's demise & the white man did the rest....
    By the time the U.S. is overrun (IF), it will be from people of mixed bloodlines, not the pure "Indian" blood that you seem to so desparately want it to be....
    There is no going back.....
    Probably half of Europe has some Gengis Khan in them....
    If you think that the old Indian way of life will magically return, I don't think that can ever happen.....
    After all, you're running out of time, 2012 is right around the corner...
    Furthermore, if you think this renaissance will be achieved by the Navajo, Apache, et al, you are truly pipe dreaming....SORRY...

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Decimated is decimated.....
    If it makes you feel better, disease was the main cause of the native's demise & the white man did the rest....
    The red man, comrade, the red man...unless you consider the Iroquois attacks on the Huron or the Tlaxcaltan conquest of the Aztecs to be evidence of that white supremacy...There is no "white man." The white race is an artificial social construct less than a few centuries old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    By the time the U.S. is overrun (IF), it will be from people of mixed bloodlines, not the pure "Indian" blood that you seem to so desparately want it to be....
    Heh..."mestizos." Are you under the impression that they're 50% Spanish and 50% Indian? They are predominantly Amerindian, and merit classification into that group, just as the 80% black and 20% white African-Americans are categorized as "blacks." But even our mulatto president is "black," so even half-breeds belong to their better halves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    There is no going back.....
    Probably half of Europe has some Gengis Khan in them....
    If you think that the old Indian way of life will magically return, I don't think that can ever happen.....
    Do you consider industrialization and post-industrial advancement non-Indian? No more than one would take advancement in the UK from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries to the present day as evidence of the destruction of British society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    After all, you're running out of time, 2012 is right around the corner...
    An artificial construct that most Mayans are unaware of, since it is not their invention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Furthermore, if you think this renaissance will be achieved by the Navajo, Apache, et al, you are truly pipe dreaming....SORRY...
    Repatriation of your type to Europe, where you'd clearly be happier, is a pan-Indian task...

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

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    The red man, comrade, the red man...unless you consider the Iroquois attacks on the Huron or the Tlaxcaltan conquest of the Aztecs to be evidence of that white supremacy...There is no "white man." The white race is an artificial social construct less than a few centuries old. :


    So, if WHITEY had no impact on the downfall of the 'amerindian', why is it that they wound up on the reservations while WHITEY had his way with their land?....

    Heh..."mestizos." Are you under the impression that they're 50% Spanish and 50% Indian? They are predominantly Amerindian, and merit classification into that group, just as the 80% black and 20% white African-Americans are categorized as "blacks." But even our mulatto president is "black," so even half-breeds belong to their better halves.


    Well, they all look alike,for the most part, so I couldn't tell what percentage of what they are...
    With regard to blacks, there are distinct definitions , (or at least there were), quadroon, octaroon....
    The term 'High yellow' denotes a black person whose complexion allows them to pass for white, so I don't see the correlation to what you claim as a 'better half', when it clearly denotes a misrepresentation of the person's true make up....


    Do you consider industrialization and post-industrial advancement non-Indian? No more than one would take advancement in the UK from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries to the present day as evidence of the destruction of British society.


    The Brits have become a victim of their own empire....
    Regardless, indusrialization really didn't start until well into the 18th century, & certainly not in North America....

    An artificial construct that most Mayans are unaware of, since it is not their invention.


    What was all that crap I saw in Tulum then, a tourist trap?....

    Repatriation of your type to Europe, where you'd clearly be happier, is a pan-Indian task...


    I'm not going anywhere, nor will the 'Amerindian'make any substantial progress 'foreward'....Sorry.....
    Last edited by Partisan; 02-19-10 at 06:52 PM.

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