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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    My wife of twelve years is from Colombia. I've been there many times and over the past several years I've asked a number of Colombians what they think of Chavez. They consider Chavez to be something like Bozo the clown.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoGringo View Post
    My wife of twelve years is from Colombia. I've been there many times and over the past several years I've asked a number of Colombians what they think of Chavez. They consider Chavez to be something like Bozo the clown.
    That makes sense.

    Now ... they need to band together and remove his dumb ass from office.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Venezuela Rocked By 7.2 Magnitude Rumor! (BoRev.Net)

    This seems to have effectively been a complete fabrication. The claim first seems to have been made by a Venezuelan blogger in an anonymous post (made by someone with the username “patria grande”) on a state-owned network’s (Vive TV) website. This is then seized upon by an anti-Chavez Spanish newspaper called ABC (he’s not well-liked among some circles in Spain and is occasionally mocked with anti-Indian epithets), which reports a statement by the government itself, claiming that “The anti-American government of Venezuela, in his usual paranoia against the U.S. empire, says the earthquake in Haiti is ‘clearly the result of a U.S. Navy test’ and stresses that ‘a U.S. experimental earthquake devastated the Caribbean country.’”

    This is then grabbed in the U.S. media by Fox News, which claims that the blog post is a “press release” and insinuates that Chavez himself is behind it, noting that “the Venezuelan strongman's state mouthpiece ViVe TV shot out a press release saying the 7.0 magnitude Haiti quake was caused by a U.S. test.” It’s also added that the story was taken down from the network’s website (the reason being that it was a blog post that had no actual endorsement by the network, as was being implied, but that wasn’t reported).

    Russia Today then progresses beyond this to a claim that Chavez himself accused the U.S. of having engineered the earthquake, referring to the same ABC story and claiming that “Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the U.S. was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.” ABC never actually quoted anything of the sort because no such statement existed. Regardless, this is then grabbed by various U.S. Internet sources:

    OpEdNews - Diary: Hugo Chavez: Haiti Earthquake Caused by U.S. Tectonic Weapon Test

    U.S. earthquake weapon used on Haiti says Chavez

    Hugo Chavez Blames U.S. For Earthquake In Haiti, Claims “Tectonic Weapon” Was Used [Video Included] Hip-Hop Wired

    Venezuelan president: US tectonic weapon caused Haiti quake Boing Boing

    Interestingly, this even finds its way to Counterpunch, hardly a right-wing source: Nikolas Kozloff: Hugo and the Shockwave

    Though again, this can’t be taken as an endorsement by the likes of Alexander Cockburn or senior Counterpunch staff any more than the blog post was an endorsement by the state-owned network.

    So this is the equivalent of claiming that a statement was made directly by Gordon Brown because BBC picked up a blog post that was later deleted when it was misrepresented as a piece endorsed by the network itself.

    However, the dissemination of anti-Chavez propaganda has an important role in discrediting his complaints about U.S. military buildup in the neighboring country of Colombia (and his claims in general, for that matter), since it could simply be depicted as another one of his laughable conspiracy theories. For example, this is the consequence of its dissemination as a standard talking point among anti-Chavez Internet posters:











    It could also be used as a basis for military action against Venezuela if depicted as a hostile threat. For example, this is used by the likes of Investors.com to claim that,
    “Venezuela's Hugo Chavez has gone off the deep end again, claiming the U.S. engineered the Haiti earthquake. It's a laughable malevolence, of course. But given the spectacular U.S. aid effort, it's also a threat.”


    The propaganda machine at work.

    I stand by my original statement.

    Chavez is a babbling idiot who needs to be locked in a lunatic asylum.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Your right, we should go put Chavez out of business......
    The U.S. has a right to that land.....
    Why? He's doing a better disservice to the word "socialism" than I could in a year of posting detailed explanations of just how flawed of a concept it is .

    Hell, getting rid of him would be the worst thing for me to do...

    The Venezuelan people got what they deserved .
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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    They are actually quite rational in their state actions.
    In terms of gaining and maintain a strangle-hold on power for, what seems to be, an indefinite time, yes. Otherwise, they're screwing their respective countries 5 times over.
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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    I didn't realise investing resources in education, healthcare and representation of the poor was evil. Also last I remembered these people were elected and continue to be. Chavez in particular represents the interests of the majority of people in his country. Hes virtually eliminated illiteracy and given millions of people healthcare and raised their quality of live with the Bolivarian missions.

    Other than that I regard him as I would most world leaders, mixed.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That makes sense.

    Now ... they need to band together and remove his dumb ass from office.
    Shame that Colombians have no business in Venezuelan affairs, and unlike Venezuelans, have no right to recall the Venezuelan head of state (which has been attempted in the past and failed). Unless you're suggesting that foreign nationals should forcibly remove a democratically elected president.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Cochise View Post
    Shame that Colombians have no business in Venezuelan affairs, and unlike Venezuelans, have no right to recall the Venezuelan head of state (which has been attempted in the past and failed). Unless you're suggesting that foreign nationals should forcibly remove a democratically elected president.
    He's a dictator my liberal friend.

    He's also nuttier than squirell poop.

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Hes a dictator that gets re-elected in fair and mediated election after election and has the support of the majority of his country. Thats what happens when you have a parasitic bourgeoise government that sucks up to the united states at the expense of the majority. It grows fat, and dies of a heart attack.

    As long as the poor are not neglected by his government like they would be under any other he will stay president of venezuela.

    also...
    The Press Association: Chavez offers olive branch to US

    he wants to be nice, see...

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    Re: Chavez: US Weapon Test Caused Haiti Earthquake

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
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    Wow, so who's right? Did the failure to address global warming in Copenhagen cause the Haiti earthquake, like Glover said? Or did the U.S. Military cause the earthquake, like Chavez said.

    Just what man-made cause resulted in this earthquake? It's very puzzling.
    I'm sure Hillary Swank is on her way to jump start the Earth's core as we speak.
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