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    Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Political Correctness strikes again under the Obama Administration. This is just going to make people angrier. One thing to keep in mind is that Fort Hood is the largest U.S. military installation in the world. Why are we so sensitive in a time of War? What happened to being brutal with the desire to win the war at all costs? America needs to wake up and understand that this Political Correctness or fear of offending a group of people are making this country weak and our citizens vunerable to attack by these people. We have got to get off this kick and become the America like we were during WW2 with a determination to kill the enemy without hesitance and without regard to their customs and traditions.

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    The U.S. military's just-released report into the Fort Hood shootings spends 86 pages detailing various slipups by Army officers but not once mentions Major Nidal Hasan by name or even discusses whether the killings may have had anything to do with the suspect's view of his Muslim faith. And as Congress opens two days of hearings on Wednesday into the Pentagon probe of the Nov. 5 attack that left 13 dead, lawmakers want explanations for that omission.


    John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission and Navy Secretary during the Reagan Administration, says a reluctance to cause offense by citing Hasan's view of his Muslim faith and the U.S. military's activities in Muslim countries as a possible trigger for his alleged rampage reflects a problem that has gotten worse in the 40 years that Lehman has spent in and around the U.S. military. The Pentagon report's silence on Islamic extremism "shows you how deeply entrenched the values of political correctness have become," he told TIME on Tuesday. "It's definitely getting worse, and is now so ingrained that people no longer smirk when it happens." (See pictures of Major Nidal Malik Hasan's apartment.)


    The apparent lack of curiosity into what allegedly drove Hasan to kill isn't in keeping with the military's ethos; it's a remarkable omission for the U.S. armed forces, whose young officers are often ordered to read Sun Tzu's The Art of War with its command to know your enemy. In midcareer, they study the contrast between capabilities and intentions, which is why they aren't afraid of a British nuclear weapon but do fear the prospect of Iran getting one.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    Why are we so sensitive in a time of War? What happened to being brutal with the desire to win the war at all costs?
    wow, yeah, thats a good policy, look how well that worked in vietnam, you ****ed up the entire country for generations and still lost.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    wow, yeah, thats a good policy, look how well that worked in vietnam, you ****ed up the entire country for generations and still lost.
    We lost Vietnam because of stupidity in DC, not because of the military. We could have won Vietnam... but we fought the war out of DC... and we were too nice.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    I personally think there are two reports. One for the public eyes which is all "Hopey" and "Changey," while the other confronts reality.

    No evidence, of course, but just my hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We lost Vietnam because of stupidity in DC, not because of the military. We could have won Vietnam... but we fought the war out of DC... and we were too nice.
    Yes of course you were - I bet that's what all the old Nazis say about WW2.

    If only Lieutenant Calley and company had not been so nice. Was it all that 'niceness' that caused roughly 4 million Vietnamese to die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Yes of course you were - I bet that's what all the old Nazis say about WW2.

    If only Lieutenant Calley and company had not been so nice. Was it all that 'niceness' that caused roughly 4 million Vietnamese to die?
    In short: yes. It's widely acknowledged that quick wars, carried out with vigor, are faster and less deadly than long, protracted wars carried out with one hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Army Retired View Post
    Political Correctness strikes again
    Indeed. How pathetic. How utterly pathetic. We are being led by a bunch of limpwristed nutless wonders.
    Why are we so sensitive in a time of War?
    A half century of the corrosive effects of liberalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    It's widely acknowledged that quick wars, carried out with vigor, are faster and less deadly than long, protracted wars carried out with one hand.
    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    In short: yes. It's widely acknowledged that quick wars, carried out with vigor, are faster and less deadly than long, protracted wars carried out with one hand.
    Actually a good and valid point. But that was not Mr Vicchio's claim. He clearly stated that you lost in Vietnam because you were 'too nice'. I was merely trying to ascertain the nature of this 'niceness'. I doubt he was using the word in the 19th century sense - to indicate delicacy, so I assume he was implying that the US prosecution of the war in Vietnam was too gentle and pleasant. The savagery of Calley and his like, and the death toll of circa 4 million, would not appear to support claims of gentleness or pleasantry. So I am left rather wondering what he meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    So I am left rather wondering what he meant.
    Me, too.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    In short: yes. It's widely acknowledged that quick wars, carried out with vigor, are faster and less deadly than long, protracted wars carried out with one hand.
    What the hell are you talking about?
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