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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Damn filty stinkin draft dodging hippies.
    Are you familiar with the draft lottery back then. If so, you will understand the significance my receiving a 275 draft number.

    Yet, still I volunteered two years to serve my country. Where is the dodge in that????
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You keep invoking the US as being partially responsible for a European problem (the rise of Hitler), so if there's illogic, it's yours.
    The US was as responsible for the rise of Hitler as any European country. The US was a signatory to the Treaty of Versailles which can be seen as the root cause of the problem, and the US was as inactive in stopping the early Nazi encroachments as any European nation. We all share culpability, and there is nothing illogical about those statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's been declared "debunked" by the usual apologists, sure. Funnily enough, at the time, it was the exact translation offered by official Iranian sources. That, of course, has all gone down the memory hole by now.
    The exact words spoken by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were - "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

    The translation from the Farsi is - "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

    Do you deny that this is so? Both the statement and the translation are matters of record, and there is no mention of wiping anyone off the map.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are you familiar with the draft lottery back then. If so, you will understand the significance my receiving a 275 draft number.

    Yet, still I volunteered two years to serve my country. Where is the dodge in that????
    What makes you think I was refering to you?
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Why should the US need to come to Europe's rescue?... We weren't being attacked, but we came and saved their ass, didn't we.

    Saved their ass from Russia for 50 years too….. Still are.
    Europe is not one homogenous mass, it is a sub-continent consisting of sovereign states. There is as much obligation for these individual nations to come to each other's rescue as there is for the US to do so.

    You were attacked, first by Japan, and then by Germany (who declared war upon the US) and you contributed significantly to the outcome of WW2, but your involvement was not obviously motivated by a desire to save anyone. War was declared upon you, and you had no choice but to participate.

    Your rivalry with the USSR for the next fifty years was also a matter of choice. European nations in concert would have been quite capable of resisting any Russian attempts to dominate the continent. You were merely competing with a rival superpower in your own interests.

    Just stop these childish claims of superiority and this faux concern for the welfare of the world, and you will gain the respect and recognition you seemingly desire.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    The US was as responsible for the rise of Hitler as any European country. The US was a signatory to the Treaty of Versailles which can be seen as the root cause of the problem, and the US was as inactive in stopping the early Nazi encroachments as any European nation. We all share culpability, and there is nothing illogical about those statements.
    The US never ratified the Treaty of Versailles. Not that it was the "root cause" anyway. A factor, sure. Cause? No.

    The US had no place in, or responsibility for, stopping early encroachments. It was purely a European matter.


    The exact words spoken by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were - "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

    The translation from the Farsi is - "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

    Do you deny that this is so? Both the statement and the translation are matters of record, and there is no mention of wiping anyone off the map.
    I don't speak Farsi, but the official translations offered by the Iranians at the time differ from what you say here. Those, of course, are gone now.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    European nations in concert would have been quite capable of resisting any Russian attempts to dominate the continent.
    With what? They were all piles of rubble. The only European nation with any semblance of a military was the UK, and the UK could not have held off the Soviets alone.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are you familiar with the draft lottery back then. If so, you will understand the significance my receiving a 275 draft number.

    Yet, still I volunteered two years to serve my country. Where is the dodge in that????
    Never got involved with the draft......already served my country 10 years when I went to Nam...
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The US never ratified the Treaty of Versailles. Not that it was the "root cause" anyway. A factor, sure. Cause? No.

    The US had no place in, or responsibility for, stopping early encroachments. It was purely a European matter.
    You are correct, the US signed, but did not ratify the Treaty of Versailles. In fact, President Wilson was against many of the stipulations contained in the treaty, and his was one of the very few voices calling for moderation and humanity in the conditions imposed upon Germany. Unfortunately he did not prevail. But the Treaty of Versailles was a major contributor, if not the root cause, in the rise of Nazism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I don't speak Farsi, but the official translations offered by the Iranians at the time differ from what you say here. Those, of course, are gone now.
    Neither do I, but the translation is well documented and easily verified amongst Farsi speakers. Irrespective of what Iranians may have said in the past, that is what Amadinejad said, so it is not legitimate to claim otherwise today.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We won every battle in Nam but we lost the war......Go Figure....
    I guess you weren't at this battle:
    Ambush at Hoc Mon

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Never got involved with the draft......already served my country 10 years when I went to Nam...
    When are we going to start measuring our penises here?

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