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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Meanwhile, back at the partisan hackery, we find after sidestepping same, the reason no-one is named.

    " ... Defense Department lawyers requested that they not discuss specifics of the Hasan case since it could jeopardize the Army’s court-martial case against him. Hasan faces murder charges, but no terrorism-related indictment. ... "

    The CSM wouldn't lie would hey?

    Terrorism? Fort Hood report doesn?t mention Islamic extremism. / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    So Europe is helpless without the US. Got it.
    Well there's a leap of illogic, if ever there was one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, he called for the end of the Soviet regime, not "wiping" Russia "off the map."
    Quite, which is exactly what the Iranian President quoted Ayatollah Khomeini as having said in respect of Israel. The 'wiping Israel of the map' claim has been debunked so many times, it is not worth repeating.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    Indeed. How pathetic. How utterly pathetic. We are being led by a bunch of limpwristed nutless wonders.

    A half century of the corrosive effects of liberalism.
    Why do you always over-simplify and generalize, liberalism has done a lot of this country and people in the last 50 years.

    Anyway, I doubt the Obama administration personally sent someone to those who contributed to this report and told them explicitly to not talk about MAJ Hasan by name or discuss Islam. And I really don't think 'political correctness' had anything to do with excluding his name.

    Here's an idea, if we ever can, lets read this report and find what it was intended to discuss. If it was meant to talk about the Army in general and not MAJ Hasan specifically then it might not mention him by name for that reason. Maybe it was written in response to but not specifically about the Ft. Hood incident? That's just speculation of course, but instead of trusting Yahoo! I'd like to read it and form my own opinion.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Well there's a leap of illogic, if ever there was one.
    You keep invoking the US as being partially responsible for a European problem (the rise of Hitler), so if there's illogic, it's yours.


    Quite, which is exactly what the Iranian President quoted Ayatollah Khomeini as having said in respect of Israel. The 'wiping Israel of the map' claim has been debunked so many times, it is not worth repeating.
    It's been declared "debunked" by the usual apologists, sure. Funnily enough, at the time, it was the exact translation offered by official Iranian sources. That, of course, has all gone down the memory hole by now.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Should we ignore it; hope it goes away on it's own?
    No, of course not. A very wise person on this board, Frodly, put it very well here:

    "In order to win this war, we need to win the hearts and minds of the average muslim. They need to see Westernization and modernization as better options than reactionary conservatism and radical Islam. The reason that is, is because it is difficult to fight a war on anything without negatively effecting the people of the country you are fighting the war in. When you bomb terrorists in Pakistan with drones, and happen to kill 10 other people, you are turning the political tide of the war. When you invade Iraq, and kill thousands of people, you are turning the political tide against you. This War needs to be fought on the political front, not the military front. Use the military only when it can be used precisely. We also need to start better understanding who we are fighting. We need to understand what motivates different groups. We try to lump all our "Islamic problems" into one basket, failing to realize that most often the problems in one place are quite different from the problems in another. We will only win, by winning the political battle. If we do that, we will win the war with radical Islam. If the Radical Islamists win the political battle, which they certainly could, then no amount of military force will do any good."
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    ......armed by one of the most populous one (china) and one of the most advanced one (soviet union) and popularly supported by the majority of the population of western europe.
    And the American Main Stream Media.....
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Erm ... it could be said that the world, which includes the US, allowed the rise of Hitler, and it was Europeans - the British and the French, who declared war on Germany, not the USA. So let's not get too 'holier than thou'.

    And why should the Germans not buy their gas (by which I take it you mean actual gas, and not petroleum or crude oil,) from Iran?
    Why should the US need to come to Europe's rescue?... We weren't being attacked, but we came and saved their ass, didn't we.

    Saved their ass from Russia for 50 years too….. Still are.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We lost Vietnam because of stupidity in DC, not because of the military. We could have won Vietnam... but we fought the war out of DC... and we were too nice.
    We won every battle in Nam but we lost the war......Go Figure....
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Obama and his administration are in a state of denial.......They are scared to death to offend Islam.......To not call what that nut case did at Fort Hood is terrorism is insane......The radical islamists are laughing at us and I don't blame them...we have 3 more years of this president and I just hope he does not destroy this country.......
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    We won every battle in Nam but we lost the war......Go Figure....
    Its not hard to figure at all. We did not have the people of Vietnam on our side. Even the South Vietnamese ended up hating us more for the death and destruction we caused than they did the North for being communists.

    We killed a million Vietnamese and still they did not like us..... go figure!

    There is a lesson in there about our war against the Middle East, but I don't think anyone much is paying attention to that.
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